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    That Handmaids Tale just seems too grim to me.

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    House of Cards is out in an hour or so apparently.

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    It's been out since this morning.

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    House of Cards... Christ, I forgot it went a bit off the deep end last year. They're going to have to make one hell of a play out of it to make it worthwhile.

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    Is Fresh Meat worth watching? Need something on Sky Go for my train journeys.

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    Try one episode and you'll very quickly get a taste of what it's about. It doesn't change much.

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    It's okay. Some of it felt a bit too real for my liking but it's probably Whitehalls least annoying role.

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    I quite liked him in Bad Education.

    Did House of Cards get good again after whatever season it was I gave up on it? It was the one where she was wanting to run for some sort of office and he was saying no and she ran off to her old homeplace in a huff. Season 3?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boydy View Post
    I quite liked him in Bad Education.

    Did House of Cards get good again after whatever season it was I gave up on it? It was the one where she was wanting to run for some sort of office and he was saying no and she ran off to her old homeplace in a huff. Season 3?
    I'd forgot what happened in 4. It went bonkers.

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    I think I liked season 3 quite a lot (not as much as 1 and 2), season 4 less so - but still probably worth watching if you're gonna watch the new one.

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    Oh, it seems it was season 4 where she stormed off home. I think I watched a few episodes at the start of it and then got bored.

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    The full Dexter boxset is £25 on Amazon at the moment. Not sure if that's the going rate, but it seems a good price.

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    Has anyone watched the new season of Archer? I'm planning to binge the entire thing on Sunday.

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    I've watched all but the final episode. It's good fun seeing the characters as sort of twisted versions of themselves, but I think it would have worked better as a four episode arc in a normal season than a season on its own. There's a sequence involving Krieger that's probably the maddest, most explosively funny thing they've ever done, but overall I think I'd only put it ahead of the Vice stuff if ranking seasons.

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    Finally watched 13 Reasons Why over the past week or so. The first episode was excellent, and I thought I was in for a real treat. By the end, I was glad to have finished it. Very "meh" overall, and all seems a bit patronising to me.

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    This season of the Flash has been largely bollocks having been steadily getting better up until late in season 2, and the finale was a lot of balls. They've managed to make Barry incredibly difficult to root for.

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    Indeed.

    I was starting to like it more than Arrow for the first time but now there's a huge gap again.

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    And now I've finished Arrow. Could have lived without the cliffhanger ending but as usual the Arrow writers pretty much sorted their shit out for the finale. I guess it depends how they resolve it next, though. I'm also curious about the flashback stuff now.

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    After finishing the fifth season of House of Cards, I would say the first half of it was very good but the second half just becomes increasingly daft and convoluted. It's all over the fucking place by the time it wraps up.

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    That's a shame. I don't know about that season specifically, but I find it weird that so many American shows have a handful or more of different writers. It seems to my unknowledgeable self that that would lead to more chance of inconsistency and wayward storylines.

    But then again some of my favourite programmes have many different writers, so er, be quiet Reg.

    Anyone watched any of the new season of Flaked? Unsure whether to bother with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reg View Post
    That's a shame. I don't know about that season specifically, but I find it weird that so many American shows have a handful or more of different writers. It seems to my unknowledgeable self that that would lead to more chance of inconsistency and wayward storylines.

    But then again some of my favourite programmes have many different writers, so er, be quiet Reg.

    Anyone watched any of the new season of Flaked? Unsure whether to bother with it.
    They decide on the broad storyline of each season and episode as a group, with the 'showrunner' having the final say on all matters, then individual writers are assigned their episodes and go off to write them. Once the scripts are turned in the 'showrunner' again has the final say and can adjust anything which doesn't fit. So while the collective writing approach will lead to some episodes having a voice, for want of a better term, that you don't like as much as others they don't have the freedom to just throw in a subplot or whatever if they fancy it.

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    Ah I never knew what a showrunner did, only heard the job title. I thought the chief writer(s) would be in charge of that.

    I thought it was interesting that Vince Gilligan sometimes writes the first couple of episodes and then others take over. I wonder if part of that is because he knows his later ideas/writing wouldn't match the early stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reg View Post
    Ah I never knew what a showrunner did, only heard the job title. I thought the chief writer(s) would be in charge of that.

    I thought it was interesting that Vince Gilligan sometimes writes the first couple of episodes and then others take over. I wonder if part of that is because he knows his later ideas/writing wouldn't match the early stuff.
    The head writer is the showrunner, in general.

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    Maya Rudolph has turned up for what I hope is a one episode part in Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt, and as always the whole thing comes to a grinding halt the moment she appears. I can't think of a single actor, past or present, as ineffective as her in ostensibly comedic moments. If she wasn't friendly with half of Hollywood and married to a director she'd have had to get a real job a long, long time ago.

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    The 100 is utter nonsense but I just can't stop watching it. Same with Designated Survivor.

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    Watched The Thick of It a few weeks ago. Not sure why I hadn't got round it to before, it's brilliant. Didn't like the fourth series as much, although it had it's moments, but the series as a whole is probably one of my favourite British comedies. Imagine it's got decent re-watch value so can see me watching it again at some point.

    Also watched The Keepers (netflix documentary), which was good. But nothing more than good, really. The girlfriend loved it but I think they dragged it out way, way too much. So bit of a poor man's Making a Murderer but decent enough.

    Catching up with Doctor Who now. First couple of episodes been poor tbh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AyDee View Post
    Watched The Thick of It a few weeks ago. Not sure why I hadn't got round it to before, it's brilliant. Didn't like the fourth series as much, although it had it's moments, but the series as a whole is probably one of my favourite British comedies. Imagine it's got decent re-watch value so can see me watching it again at some point.
    I've re-watched it all a few times now. Doesn't get old.

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    I finished the original run of Twin Peaks last night. It was very good on the whole, although it does seem to lose direction after they wrap up the whole "Who killed Laura Palmer?" angle, which I understand the network made them do at the time. So it did feel like a bit of a "so.....what now?" situation for a while after that.

    But it gets a lot better again towards the end. I liked the stuff with Windom Earle and the Black Lodge, even if it was all a bit vague at times. I'm glad I can jump into the new season too, because that original ending must have been infuriating at the time, thinking it was just to be left like that forever. I'm going to watch the film first and then crack on with the new episodes.

    Lynch's ability to go from laugh out loud funny, to just plain odd, to outright horrifying at the drop of a hat is quite something. I wouldn't say there were too many out-and-out horror moments in it, but when they occurred they were really something.

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    The last episode of this series of Taskmaster was amazing.

    The first (proper) task

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    Recently started on American Gods.

    Emily Browning's character is such a cunt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry View Post
    Recently started on American Gods.

    Emily Browning's character is such a cunt.
    You'll change your opinion of her...

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    I've already seen the nude screengrabs.

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    You'll have that on your tombstone

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    Season 3 of Better Call Saul was up there with the better seasons of Breaking Bad. That final episode, fucking hell.

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    I just finished it. Great television. Best season of Saul for me, too.

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    I spent the episode expecting that ending and at the same time not believing for a second it'd happen.

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    I already rate seasons one and two of Better Call Saul as better than a lot of the Breaking Bad seasons so jeez this third season sounds epic. I've cleared 1st July as a day to watch the entire season.
    I'm a twit

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    Yeah great season. The finale and the courtroom ep from earlier up there with the best Breaking Bad hours and the season as good as any BB season.

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    American Gods. Any good or a load of wank?

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    American Gods. Any good or a load of wank?
    Wondering as well.

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    The third season of Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt has some wonderful throwaway wordplay. It even managed to make me laugh with one of the oldest joke formats around. 'That's like Simone Biles trying to ride a rollercoaster after the park is closed; too little too late.' It's definitely the weakest of the three seasons overall, but the throwaway gags are of vintage 30 Rock quality.

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    I felt like I was laughing more during the season and found it more enjoyable overall (bar Maya Rudolph killing an episode) than season 2.

    One is the best overall by a wide margin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    American Gods. Any good or a load of wank?
    Quote Originally Posted by Bernanke View Post
    Wondering as well.
    I thought it was very watchable stuff. Definitely worth the time, for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bernanke View Post


    Not a patch on the original.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    American Gods. Any good or a load of wank?
    It's good. They are padding the absolute bejesus out of book, but the whole thing is weird and wonderful enough to still be entertaining despite dragging its feet.

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    I think it's great.

    Not 'ZOMG THE NEXT GAME OF THRONES!!!!' like the advert states but it's seriously watchable and visually stunning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raoul Duke View Post
    You'll change your opinion of her...
    Also, I actually have.

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    I'd quite like a good sci fi tv show to watch. Someone recommend me something.

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    'Good sci fi' is an oxymoron.

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