You can't really shape a media narrative over someone who shifts so quickly on everything.
You can't really shape a media narrative over someone who shifts so quickly on everything.
Our future Supreme Leader up 2 in Florida, 20% African American support / 40% Hispanic:
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/...ton-in-florida
Probably up minimum 10~ tbh but still this should shut up the delusional bitter clingers about 'battle ground state polls!!!!'
You can, in the context of the downticket races. At some point, the Republicans will cut their losses on Trump and focus on preventing a Democratic landslide in the congressional races.Originally Posted by Shindig
He's within the margin of error of the recent PPP poll, nobody is cutting losses. Open your eyes.
Give it six weeks.
Clinton's going to walk this, barring "events, dear boy, events".
Farage is joining Trump's rally today in Mississippi. Maybe he will bring back the Whig party.
@Lewis This pic from a Trump rally is all for you - enjoy. I really hope there is not a Hillsborough Florida.
https://mobile.twitter.com/SopanDeb/...047104/photo/1
It's nice to think I'm the go-to Hillsborough person.
Thought it was a nice showing of cross cultural support for the big Farage unveiling.
Whelp, Farage is backing Trump. Can't wait to see how much money changed hands for that to happen.
CNN saying trump has backed off the total deportation plan. What a man.
So deporting 10 million people turned out to be slightly impractical, who'd have thunk.
Hard to tell what effect that'll have.
As long as the wall is being built then all is good.
Katrina Pierson (I can't believe they're still letting her go on TV): ""Trump hasn't changed his position on immigration, he has changed the words that he is saying."
Trump's policies don't matter. The people who want to believe he'll deport all the forrins will believe it regardless of what he says, the people who think it's all hot air will think that regardless of what he says.
His words don't matter. He's a feelpinion politician.
lol at Nigel Farage getting a) major billing off 'The Donald'; b) attacked by the actual next President. Like somebody said on the Twitter, the cleverness of her [dishonest] speech was that every idiot she referred to in it likes nothing more than to go all over the news making their respective holes every deeper, so it does its own leg work.
You have to give him credit for the sheer level of chancing he's managed to pull off.
This bloke is incredible
That famous tunnel technology.
In fairness to him (and I say that with a heavy heart), isn't the Mexican drug situation so fucked up that an unconventional (read mental) approach might just be worth a shot?
Because American drug issues are all Mexico's fault.
There's unconventional and then there's untold billions in initial costs let alone upkeep, and that's when you magically whiff away all of the about a hundred reasons why you wouldn't do it.
Who cares how much it costs? He clearly said Mexico is going to pay for it.
The cost probably isn't relevant anyway, given you'd create jobs through building the damn thing.
Has he ever explained how he's ever going to get Mexico to pay for it?
That was the best bit.
He basically says they do 50 bil worth of trade with Mexico and he will block that trade unless they agree to pay 15 bil or whatever he pretends it will cost. Forgetting that all that threat does is hurt American companies. It's real dumb.Has he ever explained how he's ever going to get Mexico to pay for it?
Hahaha that's brilliant, so essentially he'll eliminate the reason for a lot of Mexicans to even go to the US in the first place.
In case he does win - I wonder how many Americans will feel like those Brexit voters that in hindsight felt like they shouldn't have actually voted for what they did (i.e. the people who see their vote as a means of making a statement, rather than for it's actual value).
It is heartening to see the Republican leadership rush to his defense. He can get Farage on stage more easily than a Senator. A bit like his outreach tour to minorities by talking to "the blacks" at a virtually all-white crowd in Jackson, Mississippi (check the demographics.)
Cross a desert, ford a river, cross some more desert. Oh, look a ten foot wall. Fuck it, I better go back. Of course, because most illegals now come from China and India it is not like he is playing to stereotypes or anything.
"the blacks" couldn't show up because they can't leave their house without getting shot. (I'm almost directly quoting him there, what a fucking embarrassment)
I wonder whether he'll learn from the Chinese mistakes...
How is that a mistake? Try riding around there with your mongolian cavalry while someone is firing arrows at you.
I'm not sure why the wall attracts so much lolling. It's not going to be invincible, but it would still be a pretty simple way to increase border protections, and how complicated and expensive is a wall to build (asking that possibly makes it seem less effective to people who want it to be invincible)?
If you live near the border you laugh because people die daily from crossing a desert. They get to the border with little or no supplies left and what are they going to do hop a wall or go back?
That is Az to Texas, may be entirely different in California.
One blast for the star spangled banner, two blasts for little brown people, three blasts for Pepe on his pizza delivery bike.
That's sort of where I am with it.
Presumably the wall would be of sufficient stature to stop people just hopping it.
Not sure how the tunnelling would ever be stopped, so I'd agree with Phonics' lolling there.
I remember one time I dropped the ol' "the wall just got 10 feet taller" joke and they hit me with "the tunnels just got 10 feet deeper".
I was gobsmacked.
Sure, I mean nowdaysNot sure Mexicans are traveling with that much cavalry.
You could build a huge moat full of hydrochloric acid to stop the tunnelling.
What's lol about it is that immigration is not that big of an issue, aren't they only like 5% of the total workforce? Also, illegal immigration seems to be declining, even without a MASSIVE WALL to hop. And weren't they saying that about half of illegal immigrants enter the country legally anyway?
John Oliver did a piece on it. It's really quite complicated and quite expensive.
And they've actually been building it for years and it's shit.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Fence_Act_of_2006
You know what, even if they didn't they'd be pretty damn easy to spot going around in the water, considering the whole border is patrolled by thousands of people.Sure, I mean nowdays
That said, it'll probably create the kind of miserable situation happening in Europe now, where people are trying to go on rafts out on sea and that sort of thing.
We have a longer border with Canada that is virtually undefended. We don't have an army of illegals flooding across the border. The need and market mean that if we build a wall people will find a way around it. People die on a daily basis crossing the desert - it is a wall. The wall is just symbolism.
But then again, I lol because I'm part of the 30% or so of Americans (pretty equally split across party lines) whose response to any form of immigration is "More please."
If you don't think a wall would deter at least some illegal immigrants from entering the country on the margin because it increases the 'cost' of the journey, you are stupid.
Shall I shove myself in a packed container with 50 other people for a month's journey where I may die of starvation, dehydration, or heat exhaustion? Oh, there is a wall?
Shall I get on that raft in and brave the seas to Florida where people are reported to die every year? Oh, there is a wall?
Shall I cross a desert littered with gravesites? Oh, there is a wall?
Shall I brave the penalties Isis imposes for leaving Aleppo, dodge the bombs of Iran, Russia, and the US, hide out from the rebels and cross the sea? Oh, there is a wall?
If people are ignoring the former, I don't think the wall is going to be a major deterrent. Call me crazy. Will it stop people, sure. Deterrent? Really?
It's very much the 'death penalty deters murders' argument.
Who cares if it deters a few illegal immigrants, it's such a colossal waste of money and resources just to make ourselves feel good on the inside. It's a non-issue and would never come close to happening
The wall between Israel and Palestine works, it could easily be made to work in the US. Easily.
That's different though, isn't it.
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