Don't ask, it'll only make you angry.
In other news the woman at the till in Sainsburys, when I told her I'd been up all night watching the coverage, looked at me like I'd said I was out grooming cub scouts and twisting kittens in half.
Don't ask, it'll only make you angry.
In other news the woman at the till in Sainsburys, when I told her I'd been up all night watching the coverage, looked at me like I'd said I was out grooming cub scouts and twisting kittens in half.
Someone made a point earlier on BBC Radio Scotland about "AHA! But it wasn't 52% of the electorate was it?! Ohhhhh no. It was 52% of 72%! That isn't the whole country!"
Imagine that coming from a Scottish Dr Alan Statham. It was a beautiful moment.
The Lord Ashcroft results are interesting. Particularly the main reasons for voting, where sovereignty was the main reason for leaving (immigration second), and where less leavers appear to have bought the Turkey shit than remainers bought into becoming 'isolated'. Who are the deluded cunts now, lads?
About eight of them, probably. You suspect these are the type of people who didn't know you could postal vote.Originally Posted by Davgooner
Even if we're generous and said that 75% of a 29% turnout voted for remain, you'd still be looking at less than one in four under 30s who actually bothered to go down to the polling station to vote to stay.
The argument that "the old have dragged the young out of Europe" clearly doesn't stack up in this context. If it was that important, the ignorant cunts should turn up and vote then shouldn't they.
The Young screwed The Young.
I was looking at this too. Ultimately the sovereignty issue seems to have been the big vote winner - whether that's in the guise of "making your own laws", "controlling your own borders" or "having little or no choice in further expansion or transfer of power". No doubt there will be many on the remain side who will be determined to try and narrowly define this as "immigration", which would be deeply unfortunate.
I'm not sure if I saw it on here or Twitter but there was that story floating about that thousands turned up to Glastonbury expecting there to be random polling stations set up for them. If that's the stupidity on display then they're better off not voting anyway.
Lol it's all KICKING OFF BIG TIME on my Facebook, arguments left right and centre. Mostly from the remainists. Anyone who has put up that they are pleased with the result are immediately attacked. Much like the #the45 cunts.
Sounds to me like the continental breakfast types are about to cave in.
There's a post-democratic world developing, where certain sections of the electorate appear to be convinced that the other side must have been conned into voting as they did and are furious as a result.
You only had to look at Tim Farron or Caroline Lucas when they were on the BBC this morning. It was fucking bizarre.
The unions have come out in support of Corbyn.
Marvellous.
I'm at Glastonbury (refuelling the booze at the tent while we speak) and of our group of 4 we are all remain. I voted by proxy, my mates GF voted postal and the other two applied well in advance for postal votes only to never receive them and get fobbed off when querying it. They are regular voters too, not the nobbers questioning pencils.
http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/36620201
More homegrown players = the march to 2022 World Cup glory starts now.
Sky News sez that the Germans (out of the Holocaust) want to make us an 'associated partner country'. It will be interesting to see how far they go with that, but, even in its weakest form, that is the sort of status that, had they just offered it originally, we would more than likely have voted to stay in. They are shitting themselves. Also:
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What the fuck does 'associated partner country' status entail?
We stay in the EU and Boris is PM.
We'll see, but the point is that they clearly aren't going to act like knobheads to prove a point. In other news, Nick 'Cleggers' Clegg is seething.
Does our generation just have a higher proportion of toys-out-the-pram, bitter, bastards?
I think the metaphor in the dating world is not acting like a pussy and standing up to women counterintuitively actually results in you getting way more action and respect / power within your relationships.Sky News sez that the Germans (out of the Holocaust) want to make us an 'associated partner country'. It will be interesting to see how far they go with that, but, even in its weakest form, that is the sort of status that, had they just offered it originally, we would more than likely have voted to stay in. They are shitting themselves. Also:
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I like this. Did you take this from some article / thesis I could read into?
Jesus.
Dry your eyes and pull yourself together, for fuck sake.
I've just realised that we don't really have anywhere left to go in terms of left-wing seethes. Unless they bring back hanging, this is probably it.
Let's bring back hanging.
What do these people think they've actually lost?
It strikes me that the disconnect between the impression they have and the reality is canyon sized.
I was leaning towards leave but as I said last night wasn't convinced, so didn't see it through, but fully expected remain to win anyway and wouldn't have been sobbing into my English breakfast had that transpired to be the case.
30% of Lib Dems voted to leave, according to Ashcroft. Given how pro-EU they are, that's a right laugh.
I think one of the obvious changes post-vote is that the campaign rhetoric falls away. We've voted to leave, these lads have domestic elections coming up where they'd be advocating that they shaft their own industry to prove a point. You can't imagine it would do much for a domestic audience. The concern will always be that they'll be terrified of giving Britain a 'soft landing' in case it emboldens further referenda or Eurosceptic parties, but then if they're going to do that it amounts to nothing more than a distasteful policy of coercion on existing members so fuck them.
Social media becomes an echo chamber for this shite, and reaffirms the bitterness because there's a hoard of people who agree with you. You only need to look at how people are convinced that a Twitter trend is reflective of 'real change', only for said change to be decisively rejected by everybody else when they're exposed to it. See: Corbyn's election and where things are for him now. Exactly as predicted as outside said echo chamber.
I can't comment on how good or otherwise certain newspapers were forty years ago, but you get the impression that papers like the Guardian have taken up the embittered cause with some relish these days. I don't get what they're trying to achieve by constantly making their readership feel like they're quite correct to hold grievances.
It's just my assessment of things over the last few years.
It hit peak point with Miband's loss, they simply couldn't understand it.
I hate banging on about Labour (I really do), but I just don't see what the party exists for right now. Outside your major urban areas where there's a bourgeois liberal viewpoint, what does it have to offer to anybody else? It's routed in Scotland, it refuses to run in Northern Ireland, the Welsh have decisively rejected the official Labour line on the EU and the old Labour heartlands in England are surely facing open 'rebellion' against legacy Labour voting based solely on this.
You can't envisage the old Labour heartlands voting for them again when they're so emphatically dismissed the official party line, which in years past would have been sufficient to bring the vote out alongside a solid ground operation.
It's somewhat strange. There's no emotional connection to the European Union as an institution, so my assumption (perhaps wrong) is that people think there's going to be economic armageddon and have somewhat bought into the pro-remain argument that a vote to leave is a vote for "Nigel Farage's Britain". They're therefore expecting their friends from outside the UK to be deported within the week.
Anyone with any sense can see that nothing's going to change for at least two and a half years.
It's more than that. It's the genuine fury that people would vote against, as they see it, their own self-interest. It's not that people didn't vote for Miliband, it's that they went and voted for the Conservatives. There's also this great belief that if you engage non-voters, then you've solved the problem. Not only does it provide a comfort blanket - your message isn't wrong or ill-received, it's just not reaching people - it prevents having to address the real issues.
If you want to see what the great unwashed actually think, just take a look at those who came out yesterday to vote for Brexit when they usually wouldn't bother for a standard general election. They're probably right-wing and naturally UKIP supporters before they'd ever consider voting for a Labour party run by a boring bloke with a beard and a fetish for unilateral nuclear disarmament.
https://www.facebook.com/midlandstod...4253730714761/
"It's been the best day of my life today"
Jeremy Corbyn is the worst politician in the history of these isles. He's no things to no men.
That about covers it, and he wrote it in 1941. This is giant kick in the bollocks to their identity.
Agreed. The problem, of course, is that they can't get rid of him.
That's excellent.
@Yevrah
I worked in investment banking (institutional sales) in the City roughly 15 years ago. My email inbox has exploded this morning from former colleagues who think the entire reason for their subset of the industry to exisit in London is gone. Not the entire financial services industry but segments that grew there because of the old forex markets, English language, and ability to be the link between the US and Europe.
No clue if they are right or not - an industry that size is not going to simply vanish, but their clients in the EU can't take the half decade long legal uncertainty. The panic is worse than the crash. It has been published in multiple places so I'll attach the email I got forwarded from someone at JP Morgan along with a "we're fucked." Which may be how a lot of people who don't work with the "local industry" feel.
Britain voted yesterday to begin a new, independent relationship with the European Union. This decision is a seminal moment in European politics and in the history of the United Kingdom. J.P. Morgan has 16,000 employees in the U.K. We are extremely proud of the work they do and our long history in the country. Regardless of today’s outcome, we will maintain a large presence in London, Bournemouth and Scotland, serving local clients as we have for more than 150 years. The framework of the U.K.’s engagement with the EU, including trade agreements, will be negotiated over a period of years. For the moment, we will continue to serve our clients as usual, and our operating model in the U.K. remains the same. In the months ahead, however, we may need to make changes to our European legal entity structure and the location of some roles. While these changes are not certain, we have to be prepared to comply with new laws as we serve our clients around the world. We will always do our best to take care of our people and do the right thing during times of change. We recognize the potential for market volatility over the next few weeks and we are ready to help our clients work through it. As of today, there are no changes to the structure of our clients’ relationships with JPMorgan Chase or their ability to work with our firm, but again this may change in the coming months or years. We are hopeful that policymakers will recognize the immense value created through a continued open economic engagement between the U.K. and EU members. As negotiations offer more clarity over the coming months, we will communicate with you and with our clients regarding any relevant changes. Jamie Dimon, Daniel Pinto, Mary Erdoes
Tl;dr MASSIVE REDUNDANCIES.
Orwell was a bit good.
Airstrip One.
I assume there must have been things he was wrong about as well.
Jon Snow is having a MELTDOWN on Channel 4.
The state of his Twitter timeline: https://twitter.com/jonsnowC4
It seems like my entire Facebook friend list, including people from on here, are completely deluded about what this vote was about.
The amount of 'we will welcome foreigners in my house' and calls for protests and riots is pathetic.
Young people in Britain really are shites, and have lost touch with the real world. All incredibly bigoted without knowing it, demanding to reverse a democratic decision because it didn't go the way they wanted it to.
I'm pleased we left and I'm looking forward to the future.
What are the best bits from your timeline?
Now then, Molton.
Hallo
https://www.change.org/p/sadiq-khan-...to-join-the-eu
Now then, ignoring the rest of it; how exactly would they join the Schengen Zone?
Will you all need new passports now?
Posted from Canada.So Scotland votes one way and we get dragged the opposite way ... I hope the "No" voters realize things will never change unless we gain our independence
Will Self on Channel 4 now.
They need to get him on suicide watch.
This is so good. Everyone I find annoying is in meltdown.
Nothing will even happen ffs.
He is the absolute embodiment of the metropolitan liberal intelligentsia. Bad times for him. I wish he wasn't such a prick. I don't look forward to Stewart Lee's reaction.
I can also relate to the palpable sense of grief that is now pouring out of the remain side. It is a sad state of affairs, but the grief (and anger) should be aimed at how this has been allowed to happen, rather than the perceived great unwashed who have foisted it upon the chattering classes.
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