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    Moaning about it = not being able to afford it.

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    Where was he moaning about it you spiky fuck?

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    It was implied. No need for the racism.

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    Fuck sake the FRB is closed indefinitely.

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    Fucking hell it's shut until after New Year...

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    Just when I think I have some respite from car bills for a while, the Clio goes and shits its power steering fluid all over the engine bay.

    I thought this was compounded by the M5's windscreen washers packing it in today but it turned out to be a loose connector. Every cloud and all that.

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    Can we see the updated spreadsheet though?

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    Not spent any more on it since then, not to try and jinx myself...

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    Just looking at MOT status's and vehicle details on the DVLA, and one car for the vehicle status says 'SORN and due past date of liability'. Can anyone explain what this means? I've googled it and got sort of answers, but nothing concrete. The car's currently in a showroom and only arrived a couple of days ago.

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    Could be that the website is out of date and still thinks a SORN has to be renewed each year?

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    It's the DVLA website.

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    Could be that the website is out of date and still thinks a SORN has to be renewed each year.

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    How much does it cost to get scratches out of alloys? Or more accurately, how much am I likely to be charged.

    I had a hire car last week and the place I got it from (Europcar) are claiming there's a scratch on both front alloys (made up bollocks by the sounds of it). The company who provided the hire car have written to me saying they've been informed of the scratches and I could potentially be billed for it.

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    I've had wheels fully refurbished (powder coated, sprayed, and polished) for £30 a wheel.

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    They better not start trying to charge me extortionate prices for it. Cunts.

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    With a car rental company you can pretty much guarantee it.

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    I had something similar once, only they were saying scratches on the car. I hadn't actually signed for the car because I was out when it arrived and they'd just posted the keys through my letterbox, so I got away with saying it was scratched when it arrived.

    I say "got away" but I'm 99% sure I didn't scratch it, and that there weren't even any on the car anyway.
    I'm a twit

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    I didn't scratch it either, but since when has that mattered?

    They dropped it off at 8pm so it was obviusly pitch black, and told me to check the car over once it was light. Even then I couldn't see the scratches that were already meant to be on it, let alone a couple on the alloy. They picked it up when I was out so didn't get to speak to anyone/survey the scratches.

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    Think I'm probably going to look at buying another car some time in the next few months. I love my Fabia but I think it's going to start showing its age pretty soon and now that I have a less temporary job I'm thinking to get something a bit newer on hire purchase.

    Would be looking for something good value, both in cost of the car itself and in running costs. What would people recommend for 2010-12 sort of age hatchbacks? Having looked at HonestJohn reviews and compared to average prices, a Fiesta is looking a good choice at the moment.

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    Ew at a second hander on HP.

    Just get a new one you freak.

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    Seems a bit pointless when they're about half the price after only a couple of years.

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    The mechanical outlays on a car that's already 6-4 years old isn't worth it, mate. It's a lose lose. Imagine paying finance AND road tax, MOTs, big services etc. 5 years is a big one for cars as that's normally when a lot of shit needs done.

    Basically you can't win, but if I had the choice I'd take £150-£250 per month + petrol + tyres eventually rather than the same plus all the other shite that comes with owning a car. Remember that one will be de-valuing as well.

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    True, I guess I'm overlooking resale value and not really considering all costs. Still, to look at the Fiesta example, I could get a 12 or even 13 plate for around £6k whereas a brand new one is closer to £14k. Seems like a massive difference even once everything is factored in.

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    Remember you'll still be able to return it. Basically it's almost like a lease. Lease a depreciating asset, buy an appreciating asset.

    Only think about the monthly cost, it's too hard otherwise.

    £150 * 36 = £5,400. Depending on deposits, excess mileage etc. Try to go for something that will keep it's value better.

    Now another loan would be similar, except you'd have the value of the car after three years, so say £3,000 if you're lucky. Now, a timing belt bill can set you back almost £800 on some small hatchbacks. That and other things would shat all over any 'savings' you'd made by not buying new. And if you can't afford the repairs then tough shit.

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    I buy my cars in cash. I was just hit with a £266 for MOT and Service (and a couple of repairs), plus road tax, plus 2 tyres. That was over £500 in total this month.

    So the thought of having a loan payment as well gives me the boak.

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    All fair points. So what would be your recommendation(s) for a new hatchback? Preferably with good fuel economy for primarily longer (50+ mile) journeys.

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    Why not save some money and buy something in cash? What's wrong with your current car?

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    I have no idea buddy. Have you thought about a new Fabia? You get the 1.2TSI or whatever it is for a good price. My wife's uncle who is a divorced warehouseman with two kids manages to fund his ok. Plus it's a smart little car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pepe View Post
    Why not save some money and buy something in cash? What's wrong with your current car?
    I suppose it's largely based on what Magic has been saying - my previous cars have been what I could afford in cash and it's just a lot of hassle and unpredictable cost. I don't really have cash available to buy a good car up front, so I'd be skimping and hoping I didn't encounter any problems.

    Current car is actually doing okay for the age (14 years) but it's only going to need more and more work done if I keep using it.

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    I have no idea buddy. Have you thought about a new Fabia? You get the 1.2TSI or whatever it is for a good price. My wife's uncle who is a divorced warehouseman with two kids manages to fund his ok. Plus it's a smart little car.
    I was looking at them yeah. I'd prefer a 1.4 but the price jumps massively to get that with the Fabia. I'll maybe just try a few test drives and see what I like.

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    This is all working off the assumption that a new car is guaranteed not to be a dog. Though the chances are more in your favour I suppose.

    If you are going 2nd hand then take a look at the Mazda 2 as well. They're a Fiesta up until 2014 but don't normally cost as much. A Yaris is hard to beat too, and the new ones don't look as much like they're for someone disabled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggles View Post
    This is all working off the assumption that a new car is guaranteed not to be a dog. Though the chances are more in your favour I suppose.

    If you are going 2nd hand then take a look at the Mazda 2 as well. They're a Fiesta up until 2014 but don't normally cost as much. A Yaris is hard to beat too, and the new ones don't look as much like they're for someone disabled.
    That's a decent assumption. Avoid Arnold Clark like the plague too. Leasing can be alright but if there's any tiny evidence of 'damage' they'll fleece you for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggles View Post
    If you are going 2nd hand then take a look at the Mazda 2 as well. They're a Fiesta up until 2014 but don't normally cost as much.
    They do look decent.

    A Yaris is hard to beat too, and the new ones don't look as much like they're for someone disabled.

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    I requested quotes for various cars on CarWow and it's come back with a brand new Fiesta for £8,300.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toby View Post
    I requested quotes for various cars on CarWow and it's come back with a brand new Fiesta for £8,300.
    It's quite amusing seeing what competing dealers undercut each other by but not sure if the deals I'm being offered are any good.

    I'm a giant man looking for a car that's going to be doing a potential 600 miles a week, it's going to be on finance and no more than £300 a month. Decent MPG and reliability a must, decent interior wouldn't go a miss but can be sacrificed if needed. Advise me people.

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    Reliability being a must equals a Japanese petrol.

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    I thought big miles = diesel though?

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    First driving lesson tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lofty View Post
    I thought big miles = diesel though?
    Depends on the driving, though at 600 miles I'd imagine it's mainly motorway.

    Then again AS2 is right. A Japanese petrol most likely won't break, so you can weigh up the extra fuel cost vs fixing a more economical diesel.

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    Good luck. Driving's probably the best thing you can learn as an adult. And it's easy so long as you have common sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggles View Post
    Depends on the driving, though at 600 miles I'd imagine it's mainly motorway.

    Then again AS2 is right. A Japanese petrol most likely won't break, so you can weigh up the extra fuel cost vs fixing a more economical diesel.
    Alas it's more winding A road and dual carriageway bypass than motorway, that's Cumbria for you!

    Think I'm going to get a used Skoda Superb, seen a few decent low mileage models under three years old about, hire purchase will allow me to thrash the mileage without worrying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lofty View Post
    I thought big miles = diesel though?
    In terms of MPG, yeah.

    Modern diesels aren't that reliable compared to old school diesels though when you have the likes of diesel particulate filters, EGR valves etc. adding to the complexity. That's more for later in a car's life (for the most part) though so you should be ok given you're looking at fairly new.

    Skoda Superb would be ideal for 600 miles a week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScousePig View Post
    How much does it cost to get scratches out of alloys? Or more accurately, how much am I likely to be charged.

    I had a hire car last week and the place I got it from (Europcar) are claiming there's a scratch on both front alloys (made up bollocks by the sounds of it). The company who provided the hire car have written to me saying they've been informed of the scratches and I could potentially be billed for it.
    £135 they've decided to charge me.

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    If you'd ever wondered where this road in Skyfall leads to-



    It's here-




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    That looks class.

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    I can see why they stopped to take the shot there with the DB5. After that the engine undertray was scraping the road half the time.

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    Alan is one of those freaks that likes to drive aimlessly, somehow justifying in his mind that 'it's all worth it'.

    The spreadsheet says otherwise, MATE.

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    The spreadsheet does but this was actually a day out to take advantage of the scenery with the weather.

    Staying in Torridon over a weekend in April and I've got this bad boy planned-

    https://goo.gl/maps/P39qB6bp64n

    She'll be downing the travel sickness pills.


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    Do you look after the garden yourself? The pink roses look lovely.

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    That's the neighbour I'm afraid. Nothing but monoblock now for me.

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