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    North Korea does let people out of the country. As long as daddy works for Uncle Kim.

    I only just caught up with the Trump Nambia stuff.... fucking hell, it's so embarrassing.

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    He's hilarious. He was banging on about his see-through wall again the other day. I genuinely think someone told him that the process for the wall has to be transparent and he's taken to thinking the wall itself needs to be see through. I cannot believe that someone has proposed making the wall see through because of 'drug dealers throwing big bags of drugs' over it so it has to be the former.

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    I genuinely can't think of anything less likely to happen than his silly wall. He'd only have 8 years to start it even if he wins a second term.

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    In other news, his son-in-law registered to vote as a woman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shindig View Post
    In other news, his son-in-law registered to vote as a woman.
    Lock her up.

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    He's just repeatedly stated that the reason the healthcare bill didn't pass is due to a senator being in hospital.

    There is no senator in hospital.

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    Is he planning on hospitalising one before the next vote?

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    http://thehill.com/policy/national-s...all-immigrants

    The Department of Homeland Security has moved to collect social media information on all immigrants, including permanent residents and naturalized citizens.

    A new rule published in the Federal Register last week calls to include "social media handles and aliases, associated identifiable information and search results" in the department's immigrant files.
    I wonder if they will want my TTH 'handle' as well.

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    That sounds quite illegal but I guess that never mattered before, so.

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    He's genuinely the most embarrassing person ever. What a shambles.

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    The US ambassador to Israel, David Friedman, has made a second dramatic intervention in US Middle East policy, suggesting that only 2% of the West Bank is occupied by Israel and that the international community always intended for Israel to keep some of the land it seized in 1967 during the six-day war.
    Is he trying to take attention away from Donald?

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    The Israel lobby has always been near-Donald levels of insane but they've always been a little quieter and more underground. They're still around though.

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    The only bipartisan issue, giving Israel everything they want.

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    Israel can do what it's doing forever a day, anyway.

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    How pissed are Ben Carson and Rick Perry that they appear to be the only non-formal generals in the Cabinet who aren't flying chartered planes at the government expense? In any other admin three quarters of the admin would have to resign this weekend.

    It really is difficult to determine if Spicer, the Mooch, Mnuunu, or Cohn is a bigger PR idiot. Yesterday had to be the single worst tax rollout I've ever seen. Middle class families are all buying a new car or renovating their kitchens with a $1,000 tax cut! If they live in Legoland, maybe so.

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    Trump on Puerto Rico..

    This is an island, surrounded by water... big water. Big ocean.


    Genius.

    Also, and this is no surprise, all his speeches revolve around how well he (and his team) are going to solve this (biggest ever/worst ever) disaster. It's all about him. He actually talks very little about the problems in Puerto Rico at all.

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    "Puerto Rico means Rice Port. Nobody knew that."

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    Has no-one asked him what the fuck he's talking about yet?

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    Everest is a mountain. Big, high mountain. Biggest in the world. So tall. The tallest, they say.

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    What an asshole.

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    So if you were Puerto Rican you'd probably think you're not as valuable as a us citizen.

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    Business as usual then.

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    I honestly can't wait for those gurning fucks to get lasered in the Ryder Cup. Look at Tiger, wishing he was dead. Spieth right on the cusp of some banter, surprised he didn't get a bullet in the neck from security.

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    Tiger's still there? He has no golf left.

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    It's still completely bizarre that people like Mert argue that American doesn't have a problem, or that gun control doesn't work. You just have to look at the facts. Ok, it may be too late to do anything in the US, but to deny the problem is properly dishonest.

    Some graphs for ya...
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    Playing Devils advocate for a moment - surely the method of the murder is irrelevant? Other countries have lower ‘death by gun’ figures than a country that has widespread ownership. It’s a bit fucking obvious really. Surely what matters is the murder rates? I bet you could do the same in reverse with knife crime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    Playing Devils advocate for a moment - surely the method of the murder is irrelevant? Other countries have lower ‘death by gun’ figures than a country that has widespread ownership. It’s a bit fucking obvious really. Surely what matters is the murder rates? I bet you could do the same in reverse with knife crime.
    Apparently other countries that had guns and got rid of them saw their murder rates by methods other than guns stay basically the same.

    The problem with everyone having a gun isn't that it makes one person knocking another person off in an argument easier, although it definitely does, it's that it makes it easy for a headbanger like that bloke the other night to wipe people out en masse. If all he could get his hands on was a block of kitchen knives and a cricket bat there's no chance he could have harmed close to six hundred people.

    As I said the last time we had this conversation, the astonishing thing isn't even that there's still a problem. It's the fact that the problem isn't unanimously recognised. I reckon if breakfast tea was somehow being used to kill thousands of people a year here we'd find a way to ban it, or at least heavily restrict who could lay hands on it.

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    Oh, I’m fully on board with all of that. I was just pointing out that comparing ‘murder by gun’ rates is fucking pointless. We might as well be comparing ‘death by black cab’.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    Oh, I’m fully on board with all of that. I was just pointing out that comparing ‘murder by gun’ rates is fucking pointless. We might as well be comparing ‘death by black cab’.
    I really don't get how it's pointless. Granted, isolated, it doesn't tell a full story - but I think it's just meant to say what it says = a country with more guns, has more gun deaths. Obvious, yes - but apparently not obvious enough from some Americans to fully comprehend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Arne View Post
    I really don't get how it's pointless. Granted, isolated, it doesn't tell a full story - but I think it's just meant to say what it says = a country with more guns, has more gun deaths. Obvious, yes - but apparently not obvious enough from some Americans to fully comprehend.
    I think that’s a straw man. I don’t think even the biggest Mert would say that more guns doesn’t lead to more people getting shot. Their argument is pretty much always ‘I need my guns to defend myself because bad guys have guns’.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    I think that’s a straw man. I don’t think even the biggest Mert would say that more guns doesn’t lead to more people getting shot. Their argument is pretty much always ‘I need my guns to defend myself because bad guys have guns’.
    Surely its the opposite of a straw man? It's the literal fact, presented as is... data shows that countries with more guns, have more gun deaths.

    EDIT: I've always struggled with fully understanding "straw man" arguments... so I could be wrong here.

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    I meant saying that Americans ‘don’t comprehend that having more guns leads to more gun deaths’ is a straw man. I’ve heard some ridiculous arguments from our Transatlantic friends, but never that they don’t have more deaths from guns than non-gun carrying countries. I mean, not even a fully paid up NRA member could be that fucking dense, surely?

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    Most of those numbers are down to black people shooting each other at South American rates (without which they are merely comparable to the worst European nations), so the gun ownership graphs - which imply that most killings are carried out by [white] freaks with thirty guns each - are always a bit pointless.

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    If I wanted to go on a killing spree right now, I doubt I could clock up more than 3 or 4 people at most before I was taken down by someone or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    Most of those numbers are down to black people shooting each other at South American rates (without which they are merely comparable to the worst European nations), so the gun ownership graphs - which imply that most killings are carried out by [white] freaks with thirty guns each - are always a bit pointless.
    Gun deaths of any colour happen because the supply of guns is so plentiful. In London, all the nasty black people can't get hold of guns so they stab each other, which, whilst not ideal, isn't as efficient numerically as using guns like their American brethren.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry View Post
    If I wanted to go on a killing spree right now, I doubt I could clock up more than 3 or 4 people at most before I was taken down by someone or something.
    Baz's dad when he hears the ball stop hitting the fence.

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    Magic would get points off Ital for 'nasty black people'.

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    If you can't detect the ironic nuance in my use of 'nasty black people' there then you're nowhere near as intelligent as I had you for.

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    He's probably right, though. Ironic or not.

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    Of course I can, but since when has ironic nuance stopped points being doled out?

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    Alright you grass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SvN View Post
    He's probably right, though. Ironic or not.
    He's not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    Most of those numbers are down to black people shooting each other at South American rates (without which they are merely comparable to the worst European nations), so the gun ownership graphs - which imply that most killings are carried out by [white] freaks with thirty guns each - are always a bit pointless.
    They also account for suicides from what I understand.

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    Trumps amazing ability to just agree with what the last person told him carries on.

    After slagging off the Puerto Ricans and telling them 'Your debt is really throwing us out of whack' he's now announced that he wants to cancel all that debt. Leading to this brain bending reaction:



    Maybe the chess really is 4 dimensional.

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    Hell, Trump put 33 million dollars of debt on the island himself #FromWhatIUnderstand Of course he wants it cancelled.

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    There was a story in WaPo this morning that Tillerson called Trump a moron and so now he's been forced to call a press conference to say 'I think he's great'

    This is the most hilarious timeline.

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    WaPo. Your cuntery never ceases to amaze me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bruhnaldo View Post
    They also account for suicides from what I understand.
    Those graphs I posted do indeed include suicides - which I accept aren’t murders, but are still deaths due to easy access to guns.

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