Originally Posted by QE Harold Flair
Has it been open for 8 years?
9/10 would read again.
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I always thought you'd be that twat on Come Dine With Me.Can we all take a moment to laugh at the TTH member with the poor palate?
Fair enough, but still it's a bit of a strange example. I feel people who like bourbon are probably more likely to enjoy a dark rum than a whisky (of course most people like all three) - they are just so different in taste that I don't see how a blindfold test is relevant.
I'll take it one step further: if you don't find a malt whisky more pleasant than Jack Daniels (Southern Comfort can be cast aside, as it isn't anywhere near an apples-to-apples comparison - it is a flavoured liqueur, not a spirit), there really is something wrong with you.
Nah, you've just proved his snob point in trying to refute it.
Jack Daniels isn't worse because it's not a single malt Scottish whisky, it's worse because it tastes like bum.
That's what I was getting at. Given the differences in the production methods, Jack Daniels is objectively "harsher" than single malts. Since pretty much everyone agrees that "smoothness" is a key characteristic of a whiskey's "pleasantness," single malts are indeed more pleasant.
Harry will find a way to disagree (perhaps he'll refute the notion that smoothness is ideal), but the FAHCTS remain.
Is it harsher? It tastes like sickly rubbish to me. Perfectly suited to mixing with Coke or whatever other rubbish people pair it with.
And having tried my share I'd argue that single malts and smoothness are not necessarily synonymous. Your Islays, for example, are "good quality" but there are plenty of those which give you a bit of a burn if that level of peatiness isn't your cup of tea.
I'm sort of agreeing and disagreeing with you here. Perhaps on the definition of "smoothness" rather than your greater point. Harold thinks we're a dick either way of course, but then Harold is a contrarian tosser who I don't understand why he came to this board any more than I know why he stayed at the old one.
I would have thought an 8 year old might be a bit young, even for you. Sounds like fun, by your description.
There is no implication. If I had meant what you thought I meant then I would have just said it rather than imply it.
Instead, I said nothing of the sort, but you refuse to quite get this. I'm not going to go over it again.
What tastes nice isn't a fact.
If that's the case then how can you say anyone would find Jack Daniels or Southern Comfort just as 'pleasant' in a blindfolded taste test?
Well, there is an implication. Maybe you didn't mean it, and you're just an actual idiot rather than wrong about this one thing.
There's no doubt that ageing whisky (and wine) affects the taste, which also occurs as a function of the container in which it's stored. That's just basic science.
What happens is that more age gives you more time to absorb the effects of containment. But spending a long time in a terrible container isn't going to magically make it better. The reason aged whiskys tend to be prized is that the only ones worth keeping while they age are the ones which will derive benefit from it; it's self-selection. Nobody bothered to keep the ones that didn't work. It's not just more years = better.
I don't even like whisky that much and I know that.
Well, why not? That doesn't contradict anything. It also rather depends on how you mean 'anyone'.
There would be an implication if I didn't say exactly what I meant straight after in the same sentence, and which you keep ignoring.
Whisky is something I'd like to get into drinking but I've yet to find one I like. Is it like beer where its not nice at first but once you're used to it you're fine?
In fairness, no matter what is spouted (and it happens a lot these days about more than food), Harold has a point here. All these things are down to the individual.
I really like a good smokey single malt after a meal or as a solitary drink if I'm doing nothing and just relaxing. I got some Ardberg (might have been 12 yo) that was absolutely heavenly, but the taste was so strong I usually had no more than one in one go. I'm not that fussy though, and as I keep getting lesser quality whisk(e)ys as a gift at times I sometimes use them for whisk(e)y and coke. Would never mix anything decent with coke.
Wines are trickier I think. There are so much variety and different stuff is meant for different things you can't really be sure which bottle is the way to go if you haven't tasted them. Of course the origin, grape and year are good indicators, but some wines might take hours to air to really get the taste out of them and you don't always know how it will take for each wine.
Worked my way through a bottle of Canadian Club in the past week or so of evenings, which is a bit worrying. I'm exposed to a lot of people telling me how great Scottish single malts are, but this is the first whiskey I've ever actively wanted to drink.
Not a fan, although the old building they used to produce it in is ace.
Yeah, I have been getting the impression that I ought to be a bit embarrassed. Think I'll try and find something similar, but more esteeming, for my next buy.
Oh dear.
In a nutshell, what I was saying.
Nah, nothing wrong with it, I just prefer smokier whiskeys, which is why I tend to single malts. Probably also a bit of the standard Canadian aversion to anything Canadian.
I posted in another thread on here that I have a few bottles of Glenlivet and Glenfiddich Cask Collection with a freebie of Jacboite. I am going to have to get a new bottle when I next pass through the airport as they have a brilliant selection.
I'm a big fan of the Japanese stuff and Monkey Shoulder as well.
I tried my first Japanese whisky recently. it was whatever the 'normal' Yamazaki whisky is I think and I enjoyed it very much.
We've probably drank the same stuff. Very easy to drink.
My missus dad is a whiskey taster so it's always good to go up to visit and try some of the less usual stuff.
Whisky taster as in he does it professionally?
Not really but he's part of different societies/clubs (lol illuminati) which give him the chance to do whiskey tasting. Its just a hobby.
He's a poser mate. Give him some cold tea in a fancy bottle and show him right up.
Sounds like a paedophile.
I'll buy him some southern comfort and call him out as a FRAUD.
Sounds like a right ponce.
Down with other people's hobbies!
He's an expert on wine as well. Absolute mentalist.
As shit as this sounds I'd love to be able to do that. I don't have the time nor money though.
A delicate palate.
Lol @ real ale descriptions as well.
No I can't taste nectar, fenugreek, summer fruits, cabbage, rump steak or Christmas pudding. It tastes like fucking beer, mate.
I knew I'd turn you.
I don't like whisky but my mate does and he has a fondness for certain brands and older vintages.
I'm going to believe him rather than Harold on this one.
How is Glen?
He lives in California now. It's not him.
Harold is so rapey and creepy when it comes to Henners.
This would have been such a good moment to post the Henners with 2 bottles of beer and silly grin pic, but it seems to have been wiped forever.
Have you told Glen about us, Henners?
How do you get into Whisky then? Like its a bit pricey to buy a bottle just to see if you like it.
Nips in a pub, taster sessions, Christmas presents etc
problem with buying a bottle is you might not like it. I had a double of that Isle of Skye and I don't think I'll be going back to it. Anyone want an almost full bottle? Lol
Go to a bar and ease yourself in. Try it with a dash of water and work out which flavours you prefer.
Please go for single malts though. Also get one from each region, generally if you don't like one from a region you won't like the rest (I've found).
Once you find what you like explore the ages, older the better. Again that's generally speaking.
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