Red meat is a couple categories below, in a group of things that "probably cause cancer" but they've stuck processed meat in the group for which there is "sufficient evidence that it causes cancer in humans". That isn't to say it is as risky as smoking or asbestos, but it definitely is in the same category.Originally Posted by Cord
Processed meat is the nicest meat too.
I'd like to know what's the equivalent to say smoking 10 a day for 10 years, and what's the equivalent to being a 30 a day smoker for 50 years. I hope its not 3 sausages or anything.
Blows my mind when I see kids smoking, you've got to be a complete spastic to start that habit knowing just how bad it is for you.
You serious?
@Benny
Twenty years ago it was known and people still started.
The main reason people are still smoking these days is that there's too much tax money to be made from it. There's a new generation of smokers needed to pay for the dying ones now and circle will just continue as to get to the end of it would have a crippling deficit to make up in the meantime.
Don't let any health minister tell you they actually want people to stop. They just have to be seen to be doing something toward that idea without really doing anything.
Yeah, the additions add more flavour. Give me a pork sausage over plain pork, or a beef burger over a steak any day.You serious?
That is a cracking conspiracy theory.
It's pretty much on the money. The tax loss would be huge, and while it would help cut health costs down the road, the two would be too far out of sync to work.
If health was the issue and not money the all it needs to be is something like, from January 1st 2016:
No more 10 packs
€/£15 for a 20 pack
Identification to be presented for all tobacco purchases.
Purchase prohibited permanently for anyone born after January 1st 1998.
And let it roll from there.
Currently they fuck about with adding a few p or c onto a pack. Humming and hawing about ads and packaging and doing very little, and making alternatives like ecigarettes as outcasted as they don't bring in the tax ££€€££.
Cigarettes are huge business and huge tax income and there's a fine balancing act in place between presenting a concerned front and keeping the money rolling in.
Which is all fine and makes sense, but that doesn't really address why a 10-16 year old would want to pick up smoking knowing what we know is so clearly the case, which is my point.
Why would you start smoking, in this day and age? I saw what it did to my nan, so maybe that's a big reason why I'm so against it, but I don't think you need to see first hand what it does to realise this.
All I'm saying in that respect is that it's no different to the stupidity of a 10-16 year old 25 years ago. It was known what they do to you then too.
10-16 year olds are generally stupid.
Nutcase.
The money it would free up in healthcare would probably outstrip any tax gained.
I prefer it.
Explain how being a meat snob is different to being a whiskey snob.
Years later.
It's not snobbery, I just find your stance weird - hence me calling you a nutcase.
Think it's the same reasons as always i.e. peer pressure, it looks cool and all that. Plus at that age, you think you're immortal anyway and nothing phases you, hence your 17 year old kids driving like idiots.
I've cut it right out over the last few months or so, as I keep shitting myself about the prospect of cancer anytime I feel the slightest bit ill or find something abnormal.
But I prefer it. I don't go around forcing it to people who don't.
Your bowel will never forgive you.
I smoked 20 a day for 18 years and spent 10 years of my life over 25 stone weight. My bowel is way down my list of worries of things I'm fucked for.
Smokers are actually paying for fat people at this point. Almost double the highest estimate available and not factoring in what they would have cost the healthcare sector if they hadn't died prematurely or the tax income from people in the Tobacco industry.
https://fullfact.org/factchecks/does...treasury-29288
I'd say you can thank us later but I'll be dead by then.
I always found smokers very strange. Nearly everyone in my class was at it and I stood fast. I think I've always been a freethinker, free from the peer pressure that the malleable succumb to. Smokers usually say that it isn't even enjoyable - they just 'need' it.
Another effect would be the disappearance of several juicy spots on the boards of large tobacco companies normally reserved for ex-politicians and civil servants but I'm sure that isn't a factor no sir not all.
Around 10% of mine were greatly enjoyable and the other 90% were out of habit in the end.
A lot of people, especially at that age, just think they're invincible and/or have a romanticised view of 'living fast'.
Surely anything that cuts down meat consumption is good for us, so I'm not very fussed about this. Besides, if there was a blindfold test where people would eat beef burgers and lettuce I doubt they'd be able to tell the difference. It all tastes the same anyway.
You think beef burgers taste the same as lettuce?
Lolwut?
You have to let the lettuce age in a barrel for 14 years.
Lettuce eat whatever we want ffs.
Pen's right. 94% of people in a blind fold test couldn't tell the difference between angus steak and spam.
You are all just victims of quality brand marketing. I've read the same report as Kiko, it was really eye-opening.
I still don't know what you actually said in your post. Did you compare beef burgers in taste to lettuce?
You couldn't tell them apart in a blindfold test. You just don't want to seem like a hippie eating salad, so you think you enjoy the more expensive beef burger more.
Beef burgers taste like lettuce? Like plain regular leaves of lettuce?
Have you been on crack or something?
I don't give a fuck about hippie (hippy?) anything. I don't want to eat a salad because to my tastes all those leaves taste like the smell of lawn and I don't want them as the dominant thing in my meal. Even one leaf of lettuce would render a burger inedible for me as the taste would drown everything else.
Actually, hold on a second. This is too nuts to be true. We must be crossing wires.
Are you saying lettuce leaves taste like a cooked patty of minced beef in a bun, or are you saying it tastes like a burger that's loaded with lettuce anyway?
Bad enough either way, but at least there's something maybe in the second one.
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I believe in Finland the lettuce is grown using mince beef as a fertiliser, so he's probably not used to the taste of non-Finnish lettuce.
This was my Harold impression from the 'Whisky business' thread. I apologise for not stopping after the first post, but what kind of impression would that have been.
@Giggles
My sincerest apologies at being such an utter tube.
I can normally let it run with Hazza as he's a knob, but I let myself get sucked into that one.
I didn't want to post and give the game away.
Thoroughly enjoyed that.
Oh my, I really wanted that to continue.
It's easy know I used to be a blonde.
There's a lot of people here incapable of reading. And hypocrites, too.
It is you incapable of writing, I fear.
One thing about all this is that, while I get sausages, spam, hotdogs, etc, how is bacon processed? Are they counting the curing as processing, which would make the brisket corned beef roast in my fridge processed too.
Curing counts as processing according to what's on the BBC site.
Pen and Maz trolling recently really have been the highlight of the board.
My poor corned beef
Seeing as all chicken fillets are injected with water, will my arsehole fall off if I eat them?
Well you assumed I meant something and, even when I clarified it, you still go on about it and argue against positions I do not take. What the fuck is wrong with you?
Pen has done Giggles so badly there.
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