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    It's based on a book that I bought for my younger sister years ago, and which she then wanted to talk about constantly, so I know both that it's meant for young teenagers and that it has nothing new, interesting, or surprising to say about its subject matter. I've heard it's structurally interesting, but that's about it.

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    This season of Fargo isn't really grabbing me so far like the first two did.

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    Made a start on Iron Fist this morning. Quite liked the first episode, though I suspect Ser Loras isn't going to be an especially interesting lead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan Shearer The 2nd View Post
    This season of Fargo isn't really grabbing me so far like the first two did.
    I couldn't get past a few episodes of the first one. Is the Ted Danson series any better?

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    I've only seen the second season and really liked it, keep meaning to go back and see the first but it's on an ever-growing list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian View Post
    Made a start on Iron Fist this morning. Quite liked the first episode, though I suspect Ser Loras isn't going to be an especially interesting lead.
    It's the most meh of all that lot. The Asian bird in it is mint though.

    I found some guy has uploaded the whole of The Last Train (iconic 90's post-apocalypse drama) to YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/0mni1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raoul Duke View Post
    It's the most meh of all that lot. The Asian bird in it is mint though.
    Yeah, that seems to be the consensus. Luke Cage didn't hook me the way Daredevil and Jessica Jones did either. I binged my way through those.

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    Thoughts on The Defenders trailer @Ian?

    I loved it.

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    I really liked all of them but Iron Fist is the weakest of the four.

    I have Jessica Jones just edging Daredevil and then Luke Cage just ahead of Iron Fist.

    I did binge all of them.

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    Would you agree there's a solid gap between Jones/Daredevil (in whichever order) and Luke Cage, Mahow?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pleb View Post
    Thoughts on The Defenders trailer @Ian?

    I loved it.
    Yep, just watched it and the trailer's good.

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    I would, despite enjoying Cage a lot.

    JJ and DD have far superior villains and I found Cage to be a bit too slow at times.

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    Cage was the most stylish of the lot, decent action and worked quite well around his slightly boring powers (and had a cracking soundtrack) but I just didn't really care. I had a gap of at least a month between episodes 7 and 8 or something.

    Maybe I'm just a massive racist.

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    Cage was great. On a par with DD for me. JJ was tops though.

    New series of Sense8 (from the Wachowski's) is out now

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    Was the first season of that any good?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boydy View Post
    Was the first season of that any good?
    Yeah, I really liked it.

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    I powered through Iron Fist despite it being a bit shit.

    Quite aside from Finn Jones being desperately dull and all of the cast other than Rosario Dawson and Jessica Henwick being a inconsistent-but-okay, the action was mostly pretty dull, the big fights in the last few episodes largely anticlimactic and the story going nowhere the final episode was a lot of balls and barely anything any of the characters do towards the end seemed to make any sense.

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    Fuck Billions being over. Anything similar out there?

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    You could drop your laptop on your foot, breaking both. That should give about the same amount of pleasure.

    HBO have officially listed The Leftovers as 'cancelled' which seems like an odd move given they announced that the third season would be the last when they ordered it a year ago. I wonder if they were considering renewing it or doing a spinoff or something if it had a sudden and improbably ratings bump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John View Post
    You could drop your laptop on your foot, breaking both. That should give about the same amount of pleasure.

    HBO have officially listed The Leftovers as 'cancelled' which seems like an odd move given they announced that the third season would be the last when they ordered it a year ago. I wonder if they were considering renewing it or doing a spinoff or something if it had a sudden and improbably ratings bump.
    Yeah, you're probably not the one to recommend seeing as you followed up posting about tripe like The Leftovers.

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    Watched the first two episodes of Goliath. Seems like nothing new really but a few interesting strands to keep attention.

    Billy Bob

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    Billy Bob would be reason enough to give that a go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggles View Post
    Yeah, you're probably not the one to recommend seeing as you followed up posting about tripe like The Leftovers.
    At what point did you bin The Leftovers for good? If it was after that five minute opening scene in season two it's an even more hilariously ignorant dismissal than usual, because you posted at the time that you enjoyed season one.

    Anyway, I wasn't recommending it to you. I had two things to say and didn't want to double post. The next part isn't for you either, stick The Big Bang Theory on.

    Hulu, the American mob doing The Handmaid's Tale, seem to be going all in on original programming, following the Netflix model about six years after Netflix did it. They're doing a season two of that, a Marvel thing about teenagers, and a sci-fi thing about Mars colonisation. We must be getting close to critical mass on Marvel productions, but if the latter is as well written and made as The Handmaid's Tale it ought to be brilliant.

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    Very much enjoyed those last two episodes of Billions. Intrigued to see how implicated Wendy gets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John View Post
    At what point did you bin The Leftovers for good? If it was after that five minute opening scene in season two it's an even more hilariously ignorant dismissal than usual, because you posted at the time that you enjoyed season one.

    Anyway, I wasn't recommending it to you. I had two things to say and didn't want to double post. The next part isn't for you either, stick The Big Bang Theory on.

    Hulu, the American mob doing The Handmaid's Tale, seem to be going all in on original programming, following the Netflix model about six years after Netflix did it. They're doing a season two of that, a Marvel thing about teenagers, and a sci-fi thing about Mars colonisation. We must be getting close to critical mass on Marvel productions, but if the latter is as well written and made as The Handmaid's Tale it ought to be brilliant.
    My bad. We all know that TV is all about subject matter for writing essays about character development and over analyzing, rather than entertainment of any kind.

    Such a TV snob/bore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adamski View Post
    Very much enjoyed those last two episodes of Billions. Intrigued to see how implicated Wendy gets.
    When she gets sold out

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggles View Post
    My bad. We all know that TV is all about subject matter for writing essays about character development and over analyzing, rather than entertainment of any kind.

    Such a TV snob/bore.
    The best TV offers both. Anyway, in what way is what you've said there relevant to my post?

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    Quote Originally Posted by John View Post
    The best TV offers both. Anyway, in what way is what you've said there relevant to my post?
    Relevant to you Johnny boy my dear, relevant to you.

    The best TV is turn on, watch, turn off, forget you even seen it, get on with your evening. Without the need for a thesis on the story arc or character development. Or, better yet, do whatever you need to do instead of constantly sniping about what everyone else watches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John View Post
    You could drop your laptop on your foot, breaking both. That should give about the same amount of pleasure.
    Imagine thinking this.

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    That's right; who, not what. Why have a conversation when you can just talk complete nonsense in a vacuum of your own making?

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    Quote Originally Posted by John View Post
    That's right; who, not what. Why have a conversation when you can just talk complete nonsense in a vacuum of your own making?
    So you don't constantly snipe at what everyone else watches?

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    Correct.

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    2, 4, 3, 1, 5

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    Anyone been on The Trip to Spain (am just watching it on catchup)? Absolute class.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John View Post
    Correct.
    Righto, must be mixing you up with the other ragey John on there then.

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    You needn't be mixing me up with anyone. It's more likely you're just inventing things based on your opinion of me.

    It's a bit Smiffy, but you're welcome to go back through my posts in the thread and find some sniping. I think I have about three hundred posts in here, so it should take maybe fifteen minutes for you to skim them all.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    Anyone been on The Trip to Spain (am just watching it on catchup)? Absolute class.
    I really enjoyed the Italian edition but the snippet of 'banter' used on the advert for the new one made my skin crawl. Is it as good as The Trip to Italy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by John View Post
    You needn't be mixing me up with anyone. It's more likely you're just inventing things based on your opinion of me.

    It's a bit Smiffy, but you're welcome to go back through my posts in the thread and find some sniping. I think I have about three hundred posts in here, so it should take maybe fifteen minutes for you to skim them all.
    Would take far too long, so do me a favour will you? Quote them all in one massive post for me but leave out some really relevant ones. Sound.

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    Look, your both absolute wankers. Can we just leave it at that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by leedsrevolution View Post
    Look, your both absolute wankers. Can we just leave it at that?
    We already knew that without another absolute wanker stating the fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggles View Post
    We already knew that without another absolute wanker stating the fact.
    Let's not turn this into a giant wankathon mate.

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    I haven't enjoyed this season of The Trip as much as the Italian one. Not sure why, it seems a bit too contrived this time around. I liked that in the last one you were never quite sure if it was fiction or reality and it blurred the lines a little.

    I did still really enjoy it, think I've got one left to watch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John View Post
    I really enjoyed the Italian edition but the snippet of 'banter' used on the advert for the new one made my skin crawl. Is it as good as The Trip to Italy?
    Similar, I'd say. Replace Shelley/Byron with Don Quixote and themes of death and middle age, and it's the same beast.

    I can't think of a better paced comedy ever, although maybe that's because I have the longest attention span in the world.

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    It's good that about 12 people can now enjoy it being on sky.

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    I find the desperation in Steve Coogan's character too offputting as it goes on. Rob Brydon cheating on his wife like it was the done thing too, didn't like that.

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    Without wanting to sound like Mary Whitehouse, I thought the sex was the weakest part of the first two series, kind of at odds with the tone of the rest of it.

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    Is it not a documentary then?

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    No, they play slightly exaggerated versions of themselves touring restaurants for Steve Coogan's newspaper column. Rob Brydon tags along so they can compete over who does the best Sean Connery and Tom Jones impressions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    Without wanting to sound like Mary Whitehouse, I thought the sex was the weakest part of the first two series, kind of at odds with the tone of the rest of it.
    Yeah that's what I struggled with as well. Felt like it was a documentary for the first season and a half, then starting blurring.

    Also as Wullie mentions, the impressions initially felt very off the cuff, however they've obviously seen the reception they've got and ramped it up to a point where it just feels cheap.

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    Does anyone remember The Fast Show? That was a golden age of television.
    I miss the 90's really bad

    Paul Whitehouse is so underarated as an actor. Hes got such a range about him.

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    I remember The Fast Show fondly and still reference it from time to time despite only being about 8, I think. I don't know if its held up all that well as I haven't revisited. His Aviva adverts are shit.

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    Whitehouse is a cunt.

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