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    The Artist Formerly Known as Taz
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    Didn't enjoy I'll Get This enough to warrant watching any more episodes of it.

    Speaking of trailers though, this absolute meltfest is out on Sunday.

    https://youtu.be/4p5yY0qdsWg

    The music, that bitch, everything about it

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    I read the book and thought it was excellent, but those fucking wooden actors are getting nowhere near the complexity of the characters if that trailer is anything to go by. Hopefully it's just a pitch for the moron mass audience but I fear not.

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    It's pretty bland. Worse than that, it's a Cumberbatch Vagina Monologues. I haven't checked but I reckon he wrote it. I know Cummins was important to it all, but he's basically a god in this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    I read the book and thought it was excellent, but those fucking wooden actors are getting nowhere near the complexity of the characters if that trailer is anything to go by. Hopefully it's just a pitch for the moron mass audience but I fear not.
    Was it actually good? Everyone wanked on about that book but I couldn't get over the impression that it was essentially chick lit.

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    I thought it was very good, verging on a modern classic. I'm never quite sure what 'chick lit' is supposed to be (anything primarily about relationships?), but if the subject matter is that, the writing elevates it high above the norm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Arne View Post
    His mum managing to be "half Jewish, half Sicilian" is a new one on me.
    Half nationality, half religion.
    Celebrity craving attention and being a dickhead. Shocker.

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    I enjoyed the Brexit film. The Johnson actor nailed the general mannerisms and speech patters just a shame about his look.

    The Platform on Netflix is an interesting concept. Missed Life on Mars first time round so might give it a go.

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    Altered Carbon is good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pepe View Post
    Altered Carbon is good.
    I didn't like the second season very much.

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    Not there yet, but sucks to know that.

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    The Mandalorian is getting a bit “by the numbers” now. Last two episodes have been particularly weak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pepe View Post
    Not there yet, but sucks to know that.
    Martha Higareda in the first season though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggles View Post
    The Mandalorian is getting a bit “by the numbers” now. Last two episodes have been particularly weak.
    I thought it was fairly by the numbers from the start but enjoyably so. Last week’s episode lost my attention after 5 minutes and never really got it back and went on to be the longest so far. Just ridiculously boring, the novelty of Richard Ayoade showing up aside.

    Not watched the latest one yet but I hope it picks up again.

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    New episode of Parks & Rec coming out on the 30th of this month.

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    I just watched The Carter Effect on Netflix. It didn’t really know whether it wanted to really be about Vince Carter, or the Toronto Raptors or Toronto in general, but I enjoyed it.
    I'm a twit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don View Post
    Speaking of trailers though, this absolute meltfest is out on Sunday.

    https://youtu.be/4p5yY0qdsWg

    The music, that bitch, everything about it
    Episode 1 was top-notch stuff. Book has been ordered, I live for this melty shit.

    Quote Originally Posted by John View Post
    Three Identical Strangers is a brilliant ninety minute documentary.
    This was top class, too.

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    Both Gangs of London and ZeroZeroZero are so good


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    I only just managed to make it through the second season of Westworld - it just got to be a little much. I've heard the third season is awful, so I'll probably pass.

    Not sure if anyone else is on Homeland, but it ended on Sunday and had one of the more satisfying series finales in recent memory. Stayed true to the character(s) through and through.

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    Westworld disappeared up its own arse and became supremely boring. I was never as into the first season as most people anyway and I thought it was always a bit delighted with itself but I don't think I got past the first two episodes of season 2.

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    I don't know what to make of the the second series of After Life. It's not as clunky as the first series (half of which was built around his old stand-up), but it's not quite as funny either, and half of the comedy seems out of place (namely the Paul Kaye bits). It all comes across as being a bit phoned in, but then it's probably still worth a watch if you've got nothing better to do.

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    There was loads of stand-up and podcast material in season 1, and I think there were even a few gags lifted from the Brent stuff they did for Microsoft. I really think he ran out of good ideas over a decade ago.

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    Merchant was the brains behind the whole operation.

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    Probably, but his stuff is nowhere near the level of The Office or Extras. Hello Ladies was good fun, but was mostly the same few jokes over and over.

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    I haven't watched Extras since it was first on, I wonder how well it holds up.

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    I always hear this 'Merchant was the brains' stuff and I have absolutely no idea what people are basing that idea on. There's a reason one of them has had success on his own and the other one has been on the Fucking One Show peddling a god awful Christmas Comedy.

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    I think Stephen Merchant is Peter Taylor. He seems to have a better eye for the subtle things, which polishes things up and controls the quality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    I always hear this 'Merchant was the brains' stuff and I have absolutely no idea what people are basing that idea on. There's a reason one of them has had success on his own and the other one has been on the Fucking One Show peddling a god awful Christmas Comedy.
    Because Gervais is the bigger star. He was the lead in two of the best comedies of all time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    I don't know what to make of the the second series of After Life. It's not as clunky as the first series (half of which was built around his old stand-up), but it's not quite as funny either, and half of the comedy seems out of place (namely the Paul Kaye bits). It all comes across as being a bit phoned in, but then it's probably still worth a watch if you've got nothing better to do.
    Aye. What was all that about? He was nothing like that in the first season. I'm glad it's not just me that noticed this. It's like this had no other reason to keep him around so just decided to turn him into this caricature of toxic masculinity overnight. I thought the second season was decent enough though. It's thirty minute episodes of Gervais being Gervais, so if you like his style it's always going to be at least watchable.

    But the actual content of the show is very boilerplate. He's sad his wife his dead. He makes the effort to be normal and/or does something outside his comfort zone. He get's angry or frustrated and calls somebody a cunt. Throw in a weird "newspaper interviewee of the week" encounter and chat with the old lady on the park bench for good measure. Rinse and repeat.

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    They started phoning stuff in when they 'discovered' Karl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SvN View Post
    Because Gervais is the bigger star. He was the lead in two of the best comedies of all time.
    Granted. But what has Merchant done to paint himself as the genius of the piece? What has he done sans Gervais?

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    Literally wrote and directed this that made 5x it's budget.



    Was in critically acclaimed Jojo's Rabbit.

    That's just a couple things off the top of my head in 2019

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    Gervais has written and been in critically acclaimed stuff too. He's also put out some turgid shite. As has Merchant.

    Why can't we just go with '2 great comedians came together to make a great show'? Rather than trying to pile the credit ot one of their doors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    I always hear this 'Merchant was the brains' stuff and I have absolutely no idea what people are basing that idea on. There's a reason one of them has had success on his own and the other one has been on the Fucking One Show peddling a god awful Christmas Comedy.

    I have no idea who you think is trying to pile credit at one of their doors here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    I have no idea who you think is trying to pile credit at one of their doors here.
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    Merchant was the brains behind the whole operation.
    .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    Granted. But what has Merchant done to paint himself as the genius of the piece? What has he done sans Gervais?
    Not got as famous. It's like the people who say George Harrison was the best Beatle.

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    Watched After Life 2 last night and loved it.

    Thought it mixed heartfelt and humour perfectly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
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    Yeah because I think Gervais is a bit shit and hasn't done anything good this side of 2007.

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    And Merchant being the brains behind the operation? Rofl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    Yeah because I think Gervais is a bit shit and hasn't done anything good this side of 2007.
    ........ I..... ok.

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    I don't know what people expect him to do. The Office was perhaps the best-observed British comedy there has ever been. You can't do anything as good as that again.

    Who has had a 2 or 3 decade career in comedy without their output dropping?

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    Shoutout to my boy Charles Chaplin.

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    I wonder who was the brains behind how great the Office was:

    1) The guy who has made other great (if not quite as great) comedy shows and has had some of the most successful stand up tours of all time or

    2) The guy who made a wrestling movie.

    Tough call.

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    Gosh some of you Gervais fangirls are touchy.

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    So are some of you teachers.

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    So are some of you small headed freaks.

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    Alright Stronghand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    So are some of you teachers.
    I know you are but what am I?

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    A garbage man.

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    The Americans is a great series. You (Boydy?) wasn't wrong with the good praise.

    Finished season 1 of Ozark yesterday, pretty formulaic stuff but ended well enough. Ready for the s2 slog. First going to finish off Vikings which is mostly the same twats lobbing people's heads off or burning them to death like in this episode.

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    I loved it, yeah, but I think it was maybe John singing its praises.

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