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    2018 Oscars

    Nice touch letting Beatty and Dunaway present Best Picture again.

    Frances McDormand is something else.

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    "Great thread, Panda. Lots of efforts."

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    Oh shit, she said "inclusion rider", not "inclusion writer".

    Just found out that the former is a diversity clause for the composition of the cast and crew.

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    Are they all in black and metoo-ing the shit out of it? I didn't think they could possibly make the Oscars more bollocks but that would manage it.

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    I've not seen that Shape of Water film, but every clip of it I see on the news reminds me of Bioshock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niko_cee View Post
    I've not seen that Shape of Water film, but every clip of it I see on the news reminds me of Bioshock.
    Interesting and pioneering opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niko_cee View Post
    I've not seen that Shape of Water film, but every clip of it I see on the news reminds me of Bioshock.
    Even nicked the font.

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    https://youtu.be/Mzsl9hcTQkw

    Highlight of the ceremony.

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    Nothing Jimmy Kimmel has ever done can be described as a highlight.

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    The MeToo stuff is tiresome, and a witchhunt.

    If there's anyone suffering in chains of oppression, it isn't Hollywood actresses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry View Post
    The MeToo stuff is tiresome, and a witchhunt.

    If there's anyone suffering in chains of oppression, it isn't white women.
    Rephrased for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry View Post
    The MeToo stuff is tiresome, and a witchhunt.

    If there's anyone suffering in chains of oppression, it isn't Hollywood actresses.
    Fuck off Hennorz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic View Post
    Rephrased for you.
    I can think of one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    Fuck off Hennorz.
    He has it absolutely nailed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggles View Post
    He has it absolutely nailed.
    Fuck off Giggles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    Fuck off Giggles.
    You've turned in to some fucking wet blanket. Talk about a snowflake.

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    Many of the me too mob (or perhaps the proto-me too mob) will be gutted when it turns out being attractive is no longer the main hiring requirement or avenue into the industry.

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    The Weinstein company, the biggest Oscar lobbyist, was arranging actresses to get raped by the boss systematically. The idea that massive amounts of sexual harassment doesn't happen in an industry primiarly fueled by the most attractive people in the world is madness.

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    I have no idea how those two statements are meant to relate to each other.

    And have (or are) any of these rapes ever been (going to be) proved? Does it not demean the term slightly if the apparent lack of consent is doing something you don't like, but do voluntarily, albeit with an ulterior motive?

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    A load of them rode their way to the top and now have a bandwagon to jump on to justify it, while also keeping themselves relevant.
    Yes investigate the real ones but this limp 'look at my black dress' bullshit belittles anyone that did suffer abuse.

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    Unlike witch hunts, some of these accused men are actually guilty of sexual harrassment, sexual assault, or rape. (Some others of these accused men are guilty of being dicks to women, which isn't a legal crime.)

    The rate at which false accusations are made for sexual assault is between 2-6% across the UK, Europe, Canada and the USA. The rate at which false accusations are made for other crimes in those countries is--wait for it--between 2-6%, and yet it seems to only be victims of sexual assault who get met with so much skepticism.

    Yes, it is bad that there have been instances where men have been wrongfully accused and suffered major repercussions in their lives. Yes, people should be presumed innocent in the eyes of the law.

    But by and large, movements like #MeToo are good because:
    1) people who have been bastards for ages are being outed for being bastards; and
    2) people in positions of power are being forced to consider the consequences of their actions because there are finally consequences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    I can think of one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggles View Post
    A load of them rode their way to the top and now have a bandwagon to jump on to justify it, while also keeping themselves relevant.
    Yes investigate the real ones but this limp 'look at my black dress' bullshit belittles anyone that did suffer abuse.
    That you think most of the successful ones probably slept their way to the top to get anywhere kind of proves the point of it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    That you think most of the successful ones had to sleep their way to the top to get anywhere kind of proves the point of it...
    No I don't. The ones that didn't are only using it to keep their faces on screen and in magazines though.

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    It probably topped out with that Aziz Ansari story attempting to equate him being a whopper with violent bum rape.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niko_cee View Post
    I have no idea how those two statements are meant to relate to each other.

    And have (or are) any of these rapes ever been (going to be) proved? Does it not demean the term slightly if the apparent lack of consent is doing something you don't like, but do voluntarily, albeit with an ulterior motive?
    IIRC It's a mix of statutory limits due to time passed and contracts they've signed to keep schtum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggles View Post
    No I don't. The ones that didn't are only using it to keep their faces on screen and in magazines though.
    Yeah where would Helen Mirren be without MeToo. Where would all the people giving speeches for winning an Oscar be without MeToo.

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    @niko_cee, @Giggles: brush up on what "coercion" means.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    It probably topped out with that Aziz Ansari story attempting to equate him being a whopper with violent bum rape.
    That was an awful piece called out immediately by most people...

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    I think 'most people' is overdoing it, but the fact that someone saw fit to publish it was illustrative of the climate.

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    TBH, I understand Giggles reaction as he lacks basic empathy. However, Hennorz who claims to be a man of the people and convinced systemic racism exists can get fucked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    I think 'most people' is overdoing it, but the fact that someone saw fit to publish it was illustrative of the climate.
    That someone saw fit to publish at famous website babe.org.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    TBH, I understand Giggles reaction as he lacks basic empathy. However, Hennorz who claims to be a man of the ethnics and convinced systemic racism exists can get fucked.
    Rephrased for you.

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    let's not forget Henn0rz's deafening silence post-truth and denial pre-truth of the rape gangs. He's a fucking scumbag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panda Bear View Post
    @niko_cee, @Giggles: brush up on what "coercion" means.
    I understand the point, but I tend to think, by and large, it was the opposite of proper duress - these victims weren't being threatened with ruination (although I'm sure some were) they were being promised the earth in return for their (in)voluntary act(s). Unless the thing you are doing is actually a crime (and sex isn't) then being made a good offer to do it doesn't amount to duress in any sense of the word.

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    I think there's no many levels of sleaze I'm not sure what to point to.

    I could point to the straight-up rapes, the 'i'll give you a job if...' down to the 'I've outbid everyone for your film and if you ever want to see it made, you have to put a sex scene in it and get your tits out' a la Salma Hayek.

    There's literally every type of harassment, not just one and this is just ONE PERSON IN THE ENTIRE INDUSTRY. I think it was Farrow who had bags of cocaine placed into her bag (while in flight) and then customs did a 'random check' on her on the way out. She was told it could easily go away. These people are monsters.

    It's well known that Brian Singer and friends take male child actors to their mansions and rape them. But nothing is done about it. It's widespread and it's fucking dangerous but no-one pays attention because its successful attractive women complaining and what have they got to moan about?

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    'I'll give you a job if...' isn't 'straight-up rape'. You can always not be an actress if that is the cost.

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    If your parents moved across the country and have been homeschooling you since 13 while you go from audition to audition because an agent once told them you have a shot and you're 24. How much of a choice do you really have?

    As many actors/actresses do it out of forceful parenting as do it for the love of the stage.

    (not saying that specific example is rape in the criminal sense but you know what I'm getting at)

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    I love how phonics always tries to provide insight in to things he has no knowledge or experience of. Sweet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic View Post
    I love how phonics always tries to provide insight in to things he has no knowledge or experience of. Sweet.
    Guy on the left was in my class



    Michael Douglas graduated from my school and spoke at my graduation. Most of the kids I went to school with belong to some of the most powerful families on the planet. You hear things and then your beliefs get confirmed by reports later in life. You said the same thing about the Kim Jong Un stuff that I mentioned, that was exactly on the money.

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    Oh my God.

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    What rape gangs have I denied?

    And what has systemic racism got to do with this?

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    "What? Lil ol' me?"

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    Inclusion rider's a bit much. Casting's a weird mix of business and creative decisions. It should be entirely the latter.

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    Inclusion riders isn't just the cast, it's the crew.

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    ... oh. At that level, gender shouldn't even matter.

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    It's not just gender. And we all know your issues with certain genders anyway.

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    What an inclusive thing to say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    It's not just gender. And we all know your issues with certain genders anyway.


    "YOU'RE ALL CUNTS"

    Regards,
    Snowflake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niko_cee View Post
    What an inclusive thing to say.
    Love this sort of stuff. Makes no sense but always comes along. It's 'So much for the tolerant left' when some racist gets told to fuck off.

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