They have no interest in working with him and never have. As such, he's only played into their hands by trying to do so.Originally Posted by Mert
Anyway, you actually going to vote for Trump?
They have no interest in working with him and never have. As such, he's only played into their hands by trying to do so.
Anyway, you actually going to vote for Trump?
Mert genuinely thinks everybody who doesn't agree with the every single one of the Republican doctrine's is a "leftist", doesn't he??
Those quotes make sense if you take in to account the times they were made. Fucking stupid now.
Anything from the last 200 years?
Mert - I think it's fair to say that pretty much everybody on this forum disagrees with the majority of your political views - do you think that we are all left wing nutters? Do you think, for one second, that perhaps your views are so entrenched in the Rep. dogma that you could possible be diving off the other end of the scale?
"Progress, far from consisting in change, depends on retentiveness. When change is absolute there remains no being to improve and no direction is set for possible improvement: and when experience is not retained, as among savages, infancy is perpetual. Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
- George Santaya
You realize Republicans say the same thing about Obama right? You realize that it's consistently Republicans who have been forced to concede and compromise in the last 7 years, to the extent that the base has gotten so sick of compromising that they are about to nominate Donald Trump? The Left has never had any interest in compromising or moderation, only in an unhalting march towards achieving their vision at all costs.
If he's the Republican nominee, I will absolutely vote for Trump over the criminal sociopath queen of cronyism which is Hillary Clinton.
Absolutely not. There are a number of valid points that could be made in response to the arguments I present, however nobody is informed enough to make them (which leads me to believe that most people on this forum are very ignorant as to the actual underlying principles informing the ideas they espouse; it's all emotions and environment).
Is mert saying he is too clever for us? Fuck me.
No he's saying that nobody is informed enough to prove him wrong.
Wait, that means the same thing? Well fuck me.
And here I thought the thread would be about this at the moment: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/04/us...for-years.html
It was for a little bit. Check out my quotes they're good.
What I'm saying is, there are real legitimate arguments you could make where I would go, 'well, yes, I guess there is some ambiguity and I can see how rationally you could interpret the facts to come up with this contrary conclusion', but all I'm getting is 'Obama should just fix gun control by royal decree' as if that is something that is feasible or desirable.
That's bollocks. The conservatives naturally want nothing to change; their donors are doing really well from it, thus they're happy to try to shutdown government. Did you see Graham's exit announcement? "Please please don't change anything." Alas it's Sunday night and fuck it, believe what you want. The race thus far has been top viewing and the build-up to the election should be immense.
I meant more the caucuses. No idea where you are in the country though.
Imagine, just imagine if they were Muslims wot done it.
Nothing would be different if they were protesting tyrannical local intrusion by the federal government in contravention of the 10th Amendment.
You realize the Democrats used to routinely shut down the government too right? The government was shut down five times under Reagan; that's the entire point of giving Congress the Power of the Purse and having Congressional elections every two years. Checks and balances.
https://twitter.com/IanKullgren/stat...24884484390912
If Muslims were doing it it would be a terrorist crisis. You know that's true as well.
Here's a quote for you: "Terrorism: the use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims." - The Dictionary
No it wouldn't. Just totally baseless conjecture. This is as much of a 'terrorist crisis' as BLM occupying the president's office in Princeton, except in this case there are legitimate existing redressable grievances at issue.
The people in Princeton are non-violent. There's a massive different between the two.
Yeah how many injuries and deaths in Oregon so far?
There's plenty of historic precedent for this sort of localized rebellion against tyranny anyways, it was encouraged by the founders and one of the underlying justifications for the right to bear arms. Here's an example:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Athens_(1946)
Here is an academic article discussing the insurrectionary theory behind the 2nd Amendment:
http://scholarship.law.duke.edu/cgi/...ty_scholarship
It's the same logical process to that which has certain Islamic clerics arguing that because certain conditions prevailed at the time of the Prophet, they should prevail for all time. God, I hope we never have a written constitution.
Except for the minor detail that you can amend the Constitution as social norms evolve
Anyways, how's that increasing criminalization of free speech treating you there buddy?
A post of mine in here has disappeared.
Best part is that the whole thing is like three pages long. I lolled when I first saw it. Even our constitution is a mammoth document.
Which has happened just 27 times in 230 years? Sure thing.Except for the minor detail that you can amend the Constitution as social norms evolve
Anyways, how's that increasing criminalization of free speech treating you there buddy?
It's treating me alright actually.
Yeah it was that good.
"First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me."
I'm pretty sure citing that poem is unconstitutional.
Obama and Anderson Chicken Cooper are gonna talk live on air in a little bit about guns and the executive actions. Keep your eyes peeled boys and girls.
I'll wait for Fox to tell me what to think.
I'm sure you will all be pleased to know that the other day while riding my bicycle a black Mercedes passed me awfully close despite having a full empty lane for him to use. Lo and behold, he was donning a TRUMP sticker on his back window. If that doesn't change mert's mind I don't know what will.
#factsarentracist on twitter is amazing.
Give us the highlights.
Mostly moaning about liberals. I haven't really seen any liberal tweets though.
Facts are all fun and games in furthering your political cause until you start realizing that scientific racism and eugenics were totally rational fields of study with a lot of basis and relevance to the modern world.
Then it gets uncomfortable (and dare I say, immoral). Maybe best to pretend to be liberal/idealistic on some issues for the sake of social harmony/equality.
When I made this thread I didn't think there would necessarily be echoes of Reinhard Heydrich as early as page five, but it's good to know his spirit lives on.
Honestly bro I just want to hold hands with people of all religions and ethnic groups under a rainbow and then afterwards be allowed to exploit them in peace within a minarchist governing framework using my privilege and superior economic value in the global market. That's all.
"Clinton: Aliens may have visited us already"
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefi...ted-us-already
Could you expand on your remarks regarding eugenics?
Nah.
Bruh, you can't be President and cry.
The big thing he's introducing is background checks for all gun purchases? How was that not already a thing?
Fucking hell.
True. Grow up, Barry.
It's a violation of rights and unconstitutional.
You can buy sub-machine guns in some states without even showing ID, no?
You need to do that to buy a fucking tv in the UK.
You can buy a small rifle and ammo at convenience stores whilst you're getting milk and eggs.
Introducing background checks now is like Sweden implementing border controls.
When will this go in effect? Need to stock up before!
Surely you need to show ID so it's at least registered to you? No?
Not quite walking into a grocery store and buying one but:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_show_loopholeUnder federal law, private-party sellers are not required to perform background checks on buyers, record the sale, or ask for identification.
BREAKING: Somebody described as 'looking like a right little div' has opened fire at an organic cafe in Salt Lake City, Utah, before turning the gun on his badly-dressed self. There are no reports of others being killed or wounded.
Ffs Spoons, what have you done.
Why would he shoot up an organic cafe? Those are his people.
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