Open carry.
Look a little down that conversation chain and Brian Redban has posted a photo of him. That's a serious weapon that bloke is carrying.
It's clearly a tool for hunting Elk.
How mental is that?
A geezer is walking down the street with a massive assault rifle strapped over his shoulder and that is okay under open carry laws. Alright, a pistol for home self defense but fucking hell what has it come to that this is permissible? The U.S. States south of Virginia genuinely scare me.
Four officers dead.
That dude is in this video the whole time while shots are being fired
https://twitter.com/dallasnewsphoto/...35966505881600
Holy shit you're right. I wonder if there were more shots fired after this video was filmed?
Yeah that conversation chain had him convicted and exonerated within about ninety seconds. Now people are kicking off because some reports have said one of the shooters was white and they only posted a picture of a black man. This is going to get much worse before it gets better.
Doesn't seem like there are any shots being fired in that video though. The noise is just the wind hitting the phone mic.
Get John Luther in. His magic thinking sorted out someone sniping police in two hours.
God help them if that bloke who's turned himself in leaves with so much as a burst lip.
Whoopsy doodle
I'm getting the fuck outta here.
If only the policemans guns had guns.
Taze, choke him out? Anything that doesn't involve shooting him in the head from six inches. You cannot arrest a corpse.Originally Posted by Mert
That 2nd Amendment must be looking pretty good to all those WASPs right now.
It's nice to see that the Americans can still out-retard us even after the couple of weeks we've had. Cheers, guys.
The freedom fighters out there are causing chaos.
Really though this is shit.
A fifth copper has died. Looks like they're now going in on the last remaining suspect. Wonder how many times he'll fall over in custody.
It's basically at the point now where it resembles a 3rd-world country in some parts
Those flights of stairs can be tricky I hear.
This seems a great example of why the state shouldn't have a monopoly of lethal force. Any American can have a dream that through hard work and talent, they too might gun down a series of innocent people.
Just close that country down, for fuck sake. Horrible place.
Oh shut up.
What's wrong now?
What makes it a horrible place that needs shutting down?
We should be shutting down China first, among others.
Fucking animals. Officers getting shot at while trying to protect the people protesting them.
But yes let's keep irresponsibly promoting false narratives and villifying the police, what could possibly go wrong? Obamas America in full display folks, Trump needs to be president.
There is a lot more I would like to say but won't because I would immediately be banned. There is clearly a side of good and reason and a side of evil and irrationality; I'll leave it at that.
Civilians feel police are shooting them unfairly. Now the police feel civilians are shooting at them unfairly. Sounds fair if you ask me.
Doesn't help when you spend 250 years promoting such a divide, the first 100 through enforced subservience.
For fuck sake.
My turn. What's wrong now?
You don't have to take everything literally, you know.
More the 'Horrible Country' bit which I legitimately cannot understand.
You can buy a gun with the weekly shopping - and the legislative bodies aren't prepared to do anything to stop it - and the state routinely put people to death. That there's a thoroughly unpleasant current of racism running through certain sections of the country is also evident.
I here ya mate, fucking black cunts and their savagery.
You're a fucking savage, this is exactly the attitude I'm referring to above.
Those cops were INNOCENT HUMAN BEINGS TASKED TO PROTECT THE CITIZENRY. The people shot by the cops were CRIMINALS RESISTING ARREST AND REFUSING TO COMPLY WITH LAWFUL ORDERS.
If you can't tell the difference, stay out of my country.
Broken taill lights do not warrant a gunshot.
It's the entire country, some regions are simply more politically correct in their public speech than others, and it goes both ways. I don't know what the solution is or if it's a problem that can ever be fixed
Nobody is condoning lethal force being used against the police, just like nobody is condoning the police use of lethal force in situations that aren't explicitly life-threatening.
Both sides should stop painting the other as their worst proponents.
Do mistakes happen; YES. Do they happen statistically to both races in a roughly comparable fashion; YES. Do we know the details of that particular interaction; NO!!!!
Second Amendment groups are already calling for an independent investigation:
https://reason.com/blog/2016/07/07/s...form=hootsuite
If the law feels it is justified doing what they do over and over again. They have to answer to the freedom fighters who feel otherwise.
That is purely the reason the decision was made to live in england, instead of america.
NRA still silent.
I could believe that, but I'd like to see the numbers first.
There's also the issue that laws aren't always enforced identically. Marijuana use is the typical case:
(source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...n-nine-charts/)
It doesn't matter which way you cut those numbers, the massive disproportion suggests that there's inaccurate profiling going on in enforcement, which means that even if lethal accidents occur with equal probability in every case, it will naturally follow that it occurs in a racially disproportionate fashion.
EDIT: I'm not claiming that the profiling consists of deliberate acts of racism, incidentally.
NRA as policy doesn't comment on incidents until the facts come out. Black or white.
Drug dealers vs. recreational users.I could believe that, but I'd like to see the numbers first.
There's also the issue that laws aren't always enforced identically. Marijuana use is the typical case:
(source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...n-nine-charts/)
It doesn't matter which way you cut those numbers, the massive disproportion suggests that there's inaccurate profiling going on in enforcement, which means that even if lethal accidents occur with equal probability in every case, it will naturally follow that it occurs in a racially disproportionate fashion.
And I'm at work so don't have time to really find the sources but the short version:
2x more white people than AA killed by cops per year, 4x more white people in America, white people commit per capita 1/2x the crime, per police interaction roughly comparable rate of lethal interaction.
Ignoring the insults, I'm in agreement with Mert here. The "they shot us, so we're shooting them" mentality is no different to terrorism.
I don't see how dealers verses recreational users affects those numbers? I'm open to an explanation though.
As for the rest, I'm going to have to see the numbers before I take your word on the details. I believe the first two points you made, but I'd like to see the precise wording on "committing the crime" as opposed to "number of police interactions". As well as the racial spread on crimes verses arrests, like the numbers above.
I'd really like to see racial disparity on actually committing the crime, as opposed to being charged for it, for a range of crimes. Like the figures above. Because that's where I'd suspect the real problem is. Those numbers above are undeniably a problem, whatever their cause happens to be.
Another problem that seems to occur in the US system is that police get an easier run through the justice system when charges are brought. Police officers have built-in protections within the system, and the conviction rate is known to be particularly low even when that is taken into consideration.
To be honest, I think it should go the other way. If you are in a position of authority and you abuse that position, you should face harsher consequences. Not only have you committed a crime, but you've done it from a position of power which is required for society to function. Orderly society needs us to trust police to act appropriately, and eroding that trust has to be treated as a serious issue.
There are so many grey areas though. Maybe less so in America where they are more trigger happy than elsewhere, and I'm not saying that as a piss take, they just are.
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