It does, in fact, need to be put into context when people are talking about it being a threat to our way of life and so forth. It only becomes that if we decide to react by changing our way of life.Originally Posted by Dark Soldier
It does, in fact, need to be put into context when people are talking about it being a threat to our way of life and so forth. It only becomes that if we decide to react by changing our way of life.
I'm not talking about next Tuesday ffs, I mean at a time when I'll probably be long dead.
Not bombing the living fuck out of the homes of people in the middle east in the claim of fighting terror would help somewhat, no fucking wonder people sign up when everything you know is being turned into rubble.
Where am I doing those things? There's middle ground between shouting that the world is ending and trivialising this stuff to the point where you're putting it on par with road traffic accidents. I don't think Yev is quite doing the former, but you're sure as shit doing the latter and thoroughly embarrassing yourself.Yeah, just continue with the hand-wringing and public emoting instead.
It doesn't matter how many people are killed, there's no comparison to be made. People 'accept the small' risk of having cars around because they provide a material benefit to most people's lives, and when someone is hurt or killed with the involvement of one there's generally no malice involved, someone just fucked up, or a light failed, or the weather got in the way. There's no reason to 'accept the small risk' of fucking terrorism, and trying to draw an equivalence with traffic accidents - which you have done, intentionally or not, by talking about the media responses being largely to blame for why the two are treated so differently - is pathetic.
I'm the last person to use Nazi comparisons, but 'letting the ideas run their course' was basically what Super Stan Baldwin and Ramsay Macdonald were up to in the 1930s.
That I agree with.
Projecting something that (again as per the graph) has become a serious problem for a few years at best forward a century is equally wrongheaded.
Not really. You said if road deaths got the same kind of coverage terrorist attacks do then the public would be equally as outraged and be calling for cars to be taken off the road. I'm telling you that that is bollocks.
This, every drone attack kills 9 civilians for every 1 target killed. If the US bombed my families car on their way to a wedding because they thought that maybe someone who may do something dangerous against them at some point in the future might be there? I'd be volunteering to go fuck them up all day.
You are trivializing road deaths, to be fair. I for one don't think we should just shrug off the 'small risk.' It is a separate discussion though.
Would probably help, although as I said before, it is something we should do whether it helps with terrorism or not.
Again with the misrepresentation. If you actually read what I wrote rather than reacting with apoplexy to what you think I did, we'd save ourselves a lot of time.
Get it clear - the risk should not be accepted and something should be done. Nevertheless, the likelihood of being killed by a terrorist is smaller than that of being killed by a car, and we should measure our actions appropriately with that in mind. i.e. we don't paralyse the country with police actions, or start interning brown people.
I'm generally against overseas intervention, but it can still be a practical option (we could sub-contract most of it out anyway) as a precursor to a more sustainable diplomatic/economic re-alignment.
One of my step-bros best mates has been named as dead now, John Atkinson from Radcliffe, seen the Facebook post.
Fuck's sake.
Risk:benefit is massive, though. In the world of pharmaceuticals you may have to accept a certain number of side effects to experience the therapeutic effect you are seeking. Any drug you put into your body could potentially be harmful and yet millions of people shrug off that risk every day, and rightfully so, because the benefits will largely outweigh the risks.
How in the fuck have we got to this point? TTH
The underlying point you were making seemed pretty obvious, to be honest.
Edit: As in, I don't really know how it got misconstrued to such a ridiculous extent.
All these arrests happening 5 minutes from my parents house. Grim.
Do you think they're complicit?
Also, this thread turned to shit when GS, Jimmy and Yev turned up. Stop with the essays about boring shit. Stick with quick and punchy.
Go jump in a river.
Don't you have a successful life to be tending to?
Yeah the levels of condescension went through the roof at one point. Lollard.
I'm far from apoplectic, I'm delighted that you've gone off on this mad, stupid tangent. It's very funny.
If that's the whole point you were trying to make then you should choose your words more carefully in future, because it's not the one you've made over the course of the thread. Even your original post on the subject was saying that terrorist attacks are no different to car crashes in that there needn't be an endgame.
I haven't really said anything else other than that in what I've posted. So until you tell me what specific statement I've made that is wrong, I can't really argue.
I don't tend to bother much with these threads - there's usually too many virgins who think they know how to run a country posting - but what a takedown this is from Yev.
Fair play to phonics for carrying on and still not making any sense, I'd have left the board.
Got more details on the re-alignment?
It's mostly chumming up with Iran.
We're going to have to hope the extremists bomb themselves out. We can't attack them because, unless they're involved in something like Syria, they're far too nebulous and spread out. Doing the boring "Community leaders" route is probably your best bet, although dumb teens will always rebel against authority.
But Donald told me Iran was bad to the bones.
So basically in a nutshell...
Blame Pleb.
Don't embrace the meme.
Can we unban Harold for the day? For a good ol' Hazza vs Henners show down?
He's been addressing people on Teh Refuge. The only person that responded was Henry.
The Israelis are scared of Hezbollah (and also the NARRATIVE is shifting from blaming Syria on Russia), but they're big enough to look after themselves, so fuck them.
I'd rather unban drink driving.
That'd be class, actually. One day of it. National "Made it Home" Day.
What a cunt you are. Could have made a joke about terrorism but had to put the real killer and threat to our national identity in there. Bastard.
Well done, Magic. You got at least half the joke.
Some walloper has pitched up at the Birmingham vigil with a baseball bat and an axe and forced them to clear the place out. I reckon there's something else to come.
This is good for me.
Never.
The terror threat level has been raised to critical, indicating a further attack is "imminent" rather than just "likely". The army will be on the streets to free up more police for patrol.
Might as well do a France and set an indefinite 'state of emergency.' Because laws be damned.
I swear in my years working in the passport building, we never changed out of amber alert.
What? No I didn't.
Smiffy had a right seethe as well until he deleted it.
You definitely turned up recently and said some stuff.
I thought Smiffy had given Harold his TR account as well, but it seems he's just gone a bit more mental.
I called him a loser or something a couple of weeks ago. I'm not stopping by today to debate with him, which is what you sounded like you were saying.
That's definitely Harold talking to himself. The style of the other account isnt Smiffy.
Is Smiffy banned from here again?
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