The ULTRAMEGA Summer 2017 Transfers and Rumours Thread [featuring THE MIGHTY BLADES]

[mugbull]

He's an excellent full back. You can always replace a full back. We just won the league with Alonso and Moses, who are both shit.

Your concept of what good and shit are is tied directly to prestige and to wages, so by definition someone on low wages is not a good player. It's like when you said that the Chelsea team is worse than the City team because the wage bill is a bit lower. It's a circular argument and makes no sense.

Theoretically, losing Rose would leave us with Ben Davies and we wouldn't beat a single player on the flanks for the rest of the season.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Your concept of what good and shit are is tied directly to prestige and to wages, so by definition someone on low wages is not a good player. It's like when you said that the Chelsea team is worse than the City team because the wage bill is a bit lower. It's a circular argument and makes no sense.

Theoretically, losing Rose would leave us with Ben Davies and we wouldn't beat a single player on the flanks for the rest of the season.

It's not. It's tied directly (directly!) to their capacity as individuals (Note: this is not the same as how well they do in a team). Rose is a good full back (better than the Chelsea pair mentioned) and beats men on the flanks, but were you to sell him you could recruit a replacement much more easily than you could recruit a similarly effective replacement for Kane, Eriksen, Alli or even arguably Lloris or Alderweireld. Ergo, he is a middling player in Tottenham's XI.

The amount of chin-stroking horseshit you come up with while accusing me of chin-stroking horseshit is remarkable.

[mugbull]

It's not. It's tied directly (directly!) to their capacity as individuals (Note: this is not the same as how well they do in a team). Rose is a good full back (better than the Chelsea pair mentioned) and beats men on the flanks, but were you to sell him you could recruit a replacement much more easily than you could recruit a similarly effective replacement for Kane, Eriksen, Alli or even arguably Lloris or Alderweireld. Ergo, he is a middling player in Tottenham's XI.

The amount of chin-stroking horseshit you come up with while accusing me of chin-stroking horseshit is remarkable.

Yeah, he's more replaceable than Alderweireld, Alli, Dembele but he is one of the best full-backs in the league and would easily get double the wages elsewhere etc etc.

It's horseshit when you deliberately phrase it like "middling player at top 6 team". Best left-back in the league though mate of course yeah but also middling in a mediocre team. He's within his rights to cry about 65k a year. He's not gonna get that much more at Tottenham ofc