All these votes recently have made it even sweeter for meltdowns. The most seethe up here had to be the Independence one but the EU one did run it close.Originally Posted by GS
Theresa May's Conservatives
Jeremy Corbyn's Labour
Tim Farron's Liberal Democrats
Paul Nuttall's UKIP
2 people's Greens
Nicholas Durgeon's Scottish Nationalists
Satan's Sinn Fein
Dr Ian Paisley's DUP
Some other bunch of nonces
I'm foreign, but I wish I were an Englishman
All these votes recently have made it even sweeter for meltdowns. The most seethe up here had to be the Independence one but the EU one did run it close.
Never mind Twitter - my Facebook feed was fantastic after the referendum result.
I may have posted this one at the time but it was my favourite from my news feed-
Theresa May out today to claim 'FAKE NEWS' on her social care policy that very clearly stated that they will take the value of your house down to 100k. It was possibly the most clear policy in the whole manifesto outside of the 'we'll definitely get immigration down <100,000' and 'we'll definitely clear the defiicit by 20xx' lies they've been telling for a decade.
edit: lol so the 'FAKE NEWS' is that there will be a cap on it which wasn't stated in the manifesto whatsoever. Someone clearly saw the 5 point Labour bump over the weekend.
The problem with manifestos (of all parties really) is that they're written by 23 year olds who have no idea what they're doing.
This care stuff is pretty lol in that it has managed to make supposed left-wingers suddenly realise the value (economically and socially) of inheritances, and supposed right-wingers expecting the state to guarantee inheritances. It seems like a pretty reasonable compromise on the issue to me.
Anyone sticking money on Corbz? Remarkable turnaround, can feel something special away to happen.
Only sticking point is these cunts up here. People feel if they don't want independence they have to vote Tory, even if they absolutely disagree with their policies.
If the SNP didn't exist I'd say that GS would be crying into his sash.
edit: PS this is embarrassing across all sides.
It was a terribly explained policy, but executing a sharp U-turn in this fashion makes it worse.
It's a good job that Corbyn is so uniformly dreadful.
Theresa May is fucking dreadful
Sadly for the Jezmobile it'll need something a lot more than a policy u-turn that no one understands to make him look like a credible PM.
"You're using quotes from the Labour Party to try and scare people in this country"
That's in the last 24 hours.
I can't wait for the inevitable 'Tories steady/up in polls despite social care fiasco' headlines in a couple of days.
They're spineless and the opposite of stable. Any time they get a bit of a backlash their trousers brown and a reversal happens. It's a shame the Tories can get away with it because it's embarrassing.
The Tories quoting The Daily Mail, Telegraph & Daily Express in the ad there. What was that about echo chambers?
Of all the things that would bring about a mass seethe, a coalition of the England haters and the gay hater, led by Jeremy Corbyn would top it all.
Bring it on, for the lols like.
It would be pretty funny, tbh, or at least for the couple of months before the inevitable 'fresh election'.
What seems to be overlooked is that Jez couldn't command the confidence of the house. Even if Labour managed to win 330 seats, the backbenchers who have refused to serve with him etc etc have basically said he's not up to it. Have the Tories draft a motion of no confidence, and see how many of them have any nerve.
What seems to overlooked is the second Maybot came out of her shell and actually talked policy she's had a nightmare and potentially knocked a few points off the lead. Strong and stable.
That hasn't been overlooked, though. If anything, everyone following politics expects it. She's not a media performer ala Blair / Cameron, so it's hardly a surprise.
In other news, Jez called IRA murderers "brave" earlier. Also, George Osborne's schadenfreude is remarkable to see.
The idea that anyone who does something dastardly has to be automatically a coward is pretty bizarre, and underlines the one-dimensional groupthink that the establishment tries to enforce. I'm sure there were brave Nazis and brave suicide bombers as well.
There's nothing heroic about planting a bomb and then detonating it when you're a safe distance away. The potential Prime Minister of the United Kingdom should not be suggesting that murderers who actively sought to kill British citizens (including MPs and the entire British government itself in Brighton) were "brave".
Your equivocation on this matter is most unseemly, yet entirely expected.
Shooting into a crowd. Now that's bravery.
Your stupidity is also entirely expected. Nobody has singled out the Brighton bombers or claimed that all IRA members were brave. You've chosen that misrepresentation because you can get on your high horse about it.
Corbyn said that there was "bravery both in the unionist community and the nationalist community". The horror.
There's no need to get on the high horse when his IRA supporting mates are digging themselves into holes.
Why not just admit you're a sympathiser? At least that would have a degree of honesty to it.
Because refusing to play ball with your myopic, rabidly sectarian, triumphalist nonsense is not "support".
History is more complicated than the comic book that you portray it as.
His precise choice of words is irrelevant. He wanted them to win. That makes him a traitor.
There are myriad quotes and evidence from the time to prove it. No one can seriously argue against it, so they're forced into equivocation and evasion.
If the quotes were so damning, one wonders why you're forced into the logical contortions that you are about how the nationalist community is the same thing as the Brighton bomber.
lol
She's going to announce what the cap is AFTER the election. What a joke. Clinton was crap but this one deserves to lose.
It's a complete fuck-up, and an unnecessary one at that. That said, it's better they u-turn quickly and unashamedly than potter along with a shit policy.
No one deserves to lose to Corbyn.
She isn't doing very well here, but knowing that Jez will be torn apart on Friday means it's completely irrelevant.
And some people still accuse Andrew Neil of bias.
Brillo is top class - he's brutal with everyone without resorting to the sort of Faisal Islam SHOUTING and SHOWBOATING.
He's so much better (and less of a twat) than Paxman ever was.
And as Dan Hodges (RIP) says on twitter, this is much better than a debate for putting the leaders under scrutiny.
Agreed, he's absolutely savaged the Strong and Stable May and Jez is soon in line for the same treatment.
I'm watching Emmerdale.
This format works much better than a debate - there's proper scrutiny, and nowhere for the politician to hide.
Not having an audience to cheer for cheap points is welcome.
Indeed.
Imagine the absolute carnage when Brillo gets stuck into Corbyn about the IRA on Friday. The one thing you can say about May here is that she's kept her cool under serious pressure - you suspect Jez will get angry when he's pushed.
Oh Christ, he's doing Paul Nuttall tomorrow. That's like Real Madrid against a group of fat, drunk pensioners in Torremolinos.
Tim Farron on Wednesday, Durgeon on Thursday and Jez on Friday.
Some of these interviews are going to need to be broadcast after the watershed.
May is going to fucking bottle it. Hilarious losing to an UNELECTABLE LEADER.
Right, now that the horror is over, let's consider. It was a terrible day for the Tories, but they've managed to stick all the shit into one day. They've u-turned quickly and unashamedly, and the story will move on as the other leaders are shredded. I imagine the whole clusterfuck will have had an impact in some of the more ambitious target seats, where the swing required was unlikely but possible, but beyond that the Tories are still hoovering the UKIP vote and that's what'll give them a big win.
Unless there's some other policy disaster, but you'd imagine this marks the low point with plenty of time for recovery before polling day.
She won't. Her majority will be based on continuing to run riot in former Lib Dem strongholds and hoovering up marginal seats with the hardcore UKIP vote who are flocking en masse to the Tories. Nothing you've seen here is going to stop that, because the LDs are terrible and former UKIP voters only care about Brexit definitely happening and cutting immigration. Jezza doesn't offer that.
http://www.bbc.com/news/election-2017-40005257
Savage.
She looked totally rattled.
There's an argument to make for it, but the problem is nobody wants to hear it. Outside Core Group Marxist, people like the idea of passing their wealth onto their kids. Most people are, broadly speaking, happy with the idea of inherited wealth.
What the reaction suggests is that people want to pool responsibility for funding it, rather than take the risk/reward of doing it themselves. Which is fine, but they need to also realise that they're going to have to pay for it at some point. It can't just be passed onto 'someone else'.
lol even my parents are shitting themselves that Jeremy will now win. It's total bollocks. The majority will be crushing, campaigns have no effect on results. Just ask Ed Miliband (and Nick Clegg).
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