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Thread: TTH WEREWOLF House of Cards - The Rise of Burnham

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7om View Post
    This is falling apart at the seems. THE SIX do not vote and everyone else keepit tight and stay calm. It's not difficult.
    Quote Originally Posted by niko_cee View Post
    I'm not trying to tell you what to do, I'm just trying to explain what would make sense. DON'T VOTE FOR THE WINNER is the best I can do. There are other permutations, but they are too complicated.
    I'm behind on a lot of what's happened this week due to work.

    Is my voting on Mazuuurk plan a-okay or no? Or am I supposed to switch to Vim? Or what?

    Who are THE SIX?

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    Fuck, maybe I should just withdraw and let someone take my place. It's not like this is going anywhere for me.

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    Purposely not voting is pretty crap, I agree, but this is what implementing the new rule has done to it.

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    It isn't ideal, but seeing as half the participants don't vote anyway (for no good reason) it is kind of necessary. I'm not quite sure why, if you were interested in the likelihood of the good guys winning, you would have a problem with this approach. I'm sure it 'doesn't feel right' for other parties as it has given the town an actual mechanism to find wolves outwith the seer, or buy time for said seer, in the alternative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niko_cee View Post
    I'm not trying to tell you what to do, I'm just trying to explain what would make sense. DON'T VOTE FOR THE WINNER is the best I can do. There are other permutations, but they are too complicated.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mahow View Post
    Jesus fuck.

    Either Maz is playing an incredibly good game to shift all attention from himself or he's the worst wolf in history.

    I'm now pretty damn sure that Niko is Burnham.
    Well as things stand I'm still getting lynched either way so it doesn't seem to matter what I'm doing. I can't even 'protect' myself by voting for Vim because all that does is increase the risk of a double lynch.

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    Just wait to see how things develop towards the voting deadline. If you are innocent there is no harm in voting to save yourself, even if it means being on the winning side, unless Burnham gets in with you. As you say, at the moment there is no point in you voting, although I don't know how your vote switch/withdrawal is treated. Hopefully someone might be along to vote before lunchtime - who is left? Toby, Igor and Byron of the non-sixers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by niko_cee View Post
    I'm not trying to tell you what to do, I'm just trying to explain what would make sense. DON'T VOTE FOR THE WINNER is the best I can do. There are other permutations, but they are too complicated.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mahow View Post
    Jesus fuck.

    Either Maz is playing an incredibly good game to shift all attention from himself or he's the worst wolf in history.

    I'm now pretty damn sure that Niko is Burnham.
    Yeah. Well, even if my withdrawal doesn't count, my vote would be on Browning and still kind of useless.

    Vim hasnt voted either though and I'm guessing he'll also vote to protect himself if he has to...

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    It might sound a bit callous but the priority in this round of voting is to either catch Burnham, or deny the wolves a stab at Jeremy (or A. N. Other) tonight. Not self-preservation. If we don't find him I imagine I will have to endure the same in the next round, and will be equally frustrated/exacerbated. C'est la vie.

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    Maz - Vim - Browning


    Because there may be no more to vote before 12pm and voting Vim could cause a double.

    6-4-1

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    Well I thought it was pretty obvious I'm not acting in the interest of self preservation here. I just think Vim is a better candidate for lynchibg than myself (obviously).

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    I think you are right but it would appear the town has spoken.

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    Just to make sure, none of the possible Burnhams have voted, as we planned?

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    Well, I'll chuck my vote on Vim anyway then. Its still no double lynch but if Tobes and someone else change their vote to him it should be fine...


    Maz - Vim - Browning

    Cant find the blue fortmatting on my phone...

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    I think that running vote count is wrong, no-one voted for Browning.

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    Maz did at one point, I think. He's almost managed to vote for everyone, including nobody.

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    Count is currently 6-5-0 (With Maz's vote for Vim). Watch Burnham turn up now and double it, and get a wolf kill.

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    Is that time then?

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    Well it should be closed now. I've got a feeling it was Maz. He was becoming erratic towards the end. But we will see.

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    I really thought you were going to drop the double then, Browning. Seeing as we were both watching this thread like a hawk, it would have made sense for either of us to have tried the double, if we were Burnham.

    Unless either Vim or Maz is a wolf, I suppose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niko_cee View Post
    Count is currently 6-5-0 (With Maz's vote for Vim). Watch Burnham turn up now and double it, and get a wolf kill.
    I was ready to prevent a double with my vote.

    I'm glad we were able to follow the plan and that I was able not to vote. Let's hope we got an interesting target in Maz.

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    I'm a bit behind still, but I feel absolutely lost here. I've no idea what to expect from this lynching, nor do I know what the plan was this round.

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    Yeah, let's hope he's Burnham. I'm not convinced, but he has gone a bit mental. When are we looking at write-ups?

    Thinking about it, if he was Burnham, he would have voted for himself as the writing was on the wall. So he isn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SvN View Post
    I'm a bit behind still, but I feel absolutely lost here. I've no idea what to expect from this lynching, nor do I know what the plan was this round.
    To deny the wolves a night kill, which we should have done, as none of the 6 Burnhams voted for Maz.

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    I think that as a group, we've grown too suspicious for 'going mental' being a viable playing strategy. It just gets you killed early.

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    Thanks for the game, boys

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    Sadly the best way to play is to sit in the shadows and do nothing, as has ever been the case.

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    Speaking of which, is there any way on the new board to see that window with the stats on the number of posts by a user in a thread?

    edit: never mind, I've found it.

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    Indeed. Even Panda (who I had totally forgotten was playing) has seemingly adopted this tactic. Fair play, it's worked for him. I can't remember him lasting this long in quite a while. He's usually dead by round 2.

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    Hi Chaps

    Sorry, just awake - fell asleep at 8ish last night then proceeded to have a night of 3 hour naps at a time. Anyway - up now. Will read through to validate everything, check PM's, etc and get the write ups done asap.

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    The Daily Telegraph

    Secrets spilt after Richard Burgon uses the wrong bin…

    Richard Burgon found his position under threat last night after being identified as responsible to a huge data breach. Burgon is alleged to have drunk several glasses of gin with Gordon Brown in his office on the night led to his failure to dispose of documentation correctly.

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    Waxy new veteran Andrew Neil had just received a note. Halfway through The Sunday Politics, he’d just discovered that an influential Labour MP had been hounded out by own party.

    He was to broach the subject with Diane Abbott, another highly influential figure, and one of Corbyn’s close allies.

    ‘Diane, I hate to interrupt your fifth sermon of the week on representation of black women in Parliament, but I need to ask you if you’re aware of the goings on in your own party today?’

    Abbot looked on blankly, stuck somewhere between ignominy and curiosity. It was hard to tell.

    ‘You speak of unity under Jeremy Corbyn, of making the wider party work together, then you’ve hounded out one of your own?’

    ‘Andrew, I have not… Look, we’re not hounding anyone out, some of my colleagues have made the decision to leave the party and others simply fail to grasp our vision for consensus politics…’

    ‘Diane, does that apply to Tom Watson?’

    Spluttering, Diane Abbot now looked enraged

    ‘Tom? What do you mean Tom? Well, I guess he must have…’

    ‘I’m not sure you or anyone in your party really know what’s going on, I’d suggest it’s chaos. I’m hearing that a revolt is being quelled’

    ‘I resent that Andrew’

    Michael Portillo was rather enjoying this. His orange face beaming beside her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by niko_cee View Post
    Sadly the best way to play is to sit in the shadows and do nothing, as has ever been the case.
    The last few games I've been at least nominated quite early.

    This time, where I've not been able to participate as much as usual, I've barely had a mention.

    It's benefitting me but it's still infuriating.

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    I fucking told you dickheads.

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    I nominate niko_cee (first nomination)

    The first to jump on the Jimmy train when he was likely to get the chop and he's so forceful in plans which the town are happy to listen to, I feel he is a wolf attempting to pull townspeople strings and they are lapping it up.

    I'd also like to see some who aren't as active on the ballot.

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    Why didn't Maz vote for himself? Just threw away a night kill.

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    What about Vim then? Maz voting for him at the end might well have been a wolf trying to provide cover for another wolf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by P_3 View Post
    Why didn't Maz vote for himself? Just threw away a night kill.
    He either wasn't Burnham and was just another wolf or, more likely, wants us to think that so we go after others in the list. Or they're aware we'll think that and he is bluffing.

    Whatever the case, the wolves are having a shutter so far but I almost wonder if they're just happily chucking a couple Burnhams at us to throw us off the others long term.

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    I'm more inclined to go with Toby's logic, don't think Vim is a wolf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boydy View Post
    What about Vim then? Maz voting for him at the end might well have been a wolf trying to provide cover for another wolf.
    He also voted 5th for Hammer in the first round, who provided votes 6 and 7? Maz and finally Jimmy.

    He also voted for Jimmy during his death but then changed to Toby.

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    Quote Originally Posted by P_3 View Post
    Why didn't Maz vote for himself? Just threw away a night kill.
    Because he was a Burnham chum, not Burnham, no?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian View Post
    Because he was a Burnham chum, not Burnham, no?
    IF he was Burnham, the role would've moved to someone else and he'd have been outed as a Burnham chum so we can't be sure.

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    How many wolves are left? Three?

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    Should we look to flip things on their head and ask the five others on the Burnham shortlist to vote one way, then spread votes among others so that person gets lynched? Not sure how many are still in the game, would that need four or five nominees?

    Probably a tough ask to coordinate though so maybe we're best to just rattle on with whatever other suspicions we have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mahow View Post
    He also voted 5th for Hammer in the first round, who provided votes 6 and 7? Maz and finally Jimmy.

    He also voted for Jimmy during his death but then changed to Toby.
    The vote change was because I misunderstood the PLAN.

    Quote Originally Posted by Boydy View Post
    What about Vim then? Maz voting for him at the end might well have been a wolf trying to provide cover for another wolf.
    The way I see it is Maz trying to save his own skin.

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    Ooft. What's the timescale for next phase? Nominations until 3 tomorrow?

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    I'd also like to see some inactives being nominated, but I'm afraid that if someone had an important role they wouldn't be inactive. You never know, though.

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    Let's run with Maz not being Burnham, hence the no night kill. Which leaves us with Burnham amongst THE FIVE. Considering everyone opposed the idea of 7om being Burnham, this really leaves it between Vim and Niko (Browning seems safe to me due to Maz nominating him when he could have nominated me or 7om). Considering Vim had 5 voters, one or two of whom possibly being wolves, should that exempt him from being Burnham? This naturally leaves Niko, who I'll be honest has come across as very helpful and truthful, but at the same time Mahow's logic does make sense. Hmm.

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    And that's why plans don't work, people hide behind them...

    Vim has made himself look so much more guilty in my eyes.

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    Mahow how have I made myself look much more guilty? Because I followed the no-vote plan? Just asking.

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    Claiming that something that makes you look suspicious (changing from Jimmy to Toby who had no votes) has been done all because of 'the cause'.

    It's an easy out.

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