Seemed very odd judging from the short clip I saw. The ref didn't even give him a second yellow (or at least that wasn't shown in the clip) so would that mean it was a straight red for unsportsmanlike conduct?Originally Posted by phonics
Seemed very odd judging from the short clip I saw. The ref didn't even give him a second yellow (or at least that wasn't shown in the clip) so would that mean it was a straight red for unsportsmanlike conduct?
I don't think it's much different to any of the last couple of years. They'll still finish third and hit the FA cup later stages/win it.
What is the process for deciding to stay behind and boo? Do you just decide when you would normally get up to leave, or do you spend the entire second half psyching yourself up for it?
Leicester mk2. Snakes.
Fucking lol.
I've not seen this Koscielny one, but the way they've fudged the new no double punishment penalty/red card rule to exclude Luis Suarez style bastardry is a bit of a mess.
Oh lol.
Love the cold ruthlessness from Bayern. Make them cry
That must be the biggest blue box in BBC live text commentary history.
Arsenal really 10-2 struggle in the knock-out stages, don't they.
I like how 'Wenger Out' flags have started to appear, so the spineless fuckwits took them just in case they got whomped. Faggots.
This is The Round Of Arsenal, so it's fairly appropriate they get beasted here
Maybe Wenger won't, but no other manager in the world would survive a 10-2 on aggregate.
Fuck sake. Stupid fucking sending off in the 90th after basically a stalwart defensive display and they score at the death.
I know we've since passed on from this, but saw this on Reddit regarding Ramos: Of Sergio Ramos' 21 goals since the 2014 Champions League final, 18 have come when Real Madrid are losing or tied. Haven't checked if that's correct, but very a impressive return if true and as Waff said scoring when Real need it, not the 4th against Arsenalor the like.
That's actually embarrassing.
Won me £100 so all good. Go dry yourself aff wi a hairdryer again, mate. Looked like you enjoyed that.
7 points from the last three is still a good return. If we're going to drop points to one of them, Reading's the one that's less damaging. Still in for a tense finish.
At least someone from Arsenal enjoyed it. Again.
What's this 'double punishment' thing and when did it start?
I think it's a Premier League thing. Started this season to allow teams to have a full compliment after penalty decisions.
You don't get red carded for giving away a penalty in a 'goal scoring opportunity' situation if you are legitimately trying to play the ball. Problem is, if you go shoulder to shoulder in a last man situation, for example, and the ref says it's a foul then you get no such dispensation as you aren't playing the ball. I assume the rule is there to stop bastards hacking people down and chancing a penalty miss (and for on the line handballs) but they way it has been interpreted sometimes this season has been a bit mad - Newcastle got a right shafting against Forest as I recall. It's not just a Premier League thing, it's a FIFA rule, I believe.
Talk about complicating things.
No but how does the ref give a yellow for a decision and then give a red for the very same decision. Surely you can't do that?
He clearly says penalty and yellow (soft but fair enough) and then gives him a red. It makes no sense outside of a fix.
Greek ref, German team . . .
Was it not a yellow for the foul and a second yellow for mouthing off?
Nope. He was given a yellow and then a straight red. No second yellow.
Ah right, hadn't copped that there was no yellow in between. Bit dodgy sounding alright.
Past-it ideologue in north London taking the red team towards new depths on a daily basis. A winning machine at the turn of the millennium, they're now in danger of becoming irrelevant and it's got so bad he's being openly laughed at by his own troops. But does anyone have the power to get rid of him?
Job swap.
I was always a bit wary about it but ever since the Van Perdue incident (sent off for attempting to score 0.3 seconds after the whistle went vs Barca) Saint does seem more correct.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/...-just-another/
Fascinating read on Barcelona losing their soul.
Backwards-run club realises self-indulgence costs money. Read all about it. Besides, most of the pre-'Pep' history was based on signing the best players for loads of money, so file that one under short memories.
Exactly. You wonder how many would be happy to have ridden their principles (ie sentimental wank) to 8th place every year.
No from what I understood it was more like he handed a Yellow, but then changed that Yellow to a straight Red because the linesman told him it was a straight Red.
This is it.
Because of the new rule the fifth official told him that Koscielny hadn't attempted to play the ball so it was a red card.
I don't get the logic of the 'double punishment' anyway. It's just yet another reward for cynical play, which isn't limited to instances when no genuine attempt is made to play the ball.
Which is exactly what this was
Yup. Plus, if you miss, then there is effectively very little punishment at all (bar the yellow card).
I'd say that's more simulation.
Linking foul play with a skill-based follow up for the victims is bollocks, foul play should be linked to definitive sanctions. Either cards or, as in rugby, a penalty goal.
I hadn't seen the penalty incident until now. That's pretty clearly not a foul. No newspapers seemed to agree with this today though?
Mings has been banned for 5 games and Zlatan for 3.
Do you read all the newspapers? (Not trolling)
I'm a twit
Doesn't fit the NARRATIVE.
Fucking hell, I hadn't seen that Arsenal red/penalty.
Dear lord. Is there another angle that makes it look any better? There is definitely something in the Premier League teams getting the raw end of 'continental refereeing', probably harking back to when Barcelona absolutely robbed Chelsea care of that Norwegian (?) idiot. Nani's red against Real, City have been shafted numerous times (not least against Monaco when there is no doubt that Arsenal's 'keeper would have been sent off for the effort on Aguero), I'm sure there are others. Big decisions seem to be a bit of a one way street.
It's because the standard of officiating in the rest of Europe is awful.
There was also that time they fixed the draw for the Italians/Spaniards, and they fined Alex Ferguson for daring to EXPOSE them.
Here we go.
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