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    Mayweather being out the saddle a little would've helped prolong it. It was a good test of the unknown.

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    It was a worthwhile exercise, all things considered.

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    I don't think it's a case of being unfit. McGregor isn't a boxer so he had no idea on how to pace himself or be boxing fit. He's an amateur boxer ffs, he's never going to do better than that. Look at the first fights off most boxers to them now and it'll be incomparable.

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    He could have paid somebody to help him pace himself. The people helping him learn to punch better might have known somebody.

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    The guy is a shit amateur boxer. What are you expecting?

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    I think he boxed better than most people would have expected, and used his size advantage reasonably effectively, so it's not as though his tactics - and therefore his pacing, until he got knackered - were completely useless. He just wasn't fit (or maybe healthy if his cutting was to blame) enough to keep it up for more than ten minutes, which, to say he was meant to be depending on 'one shot', stupidly limits his window for doing that to four rounds.

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    Watching the replay now and with the knowledge of how fucked he was going to be at the end of the fourth, the way he comes out at the start of that round seems like McGregor realising he had a few full power swings left before he was too tired to land the knockout. He charges out like it was the final round and he was down on the cards.

    Has Mayweather said anything about that daft balaclava? He looked ridiculous.

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    Yeah. If he was going to catch him with a knockout shot then it was only going to come later on once Mayweather had opened up and started attacking himself. You're not going to wade through anyone like George Foreman early on, let alone somebody miles better than you, and I think his early rounds actually reflected that. He just wasn't in good enough shape, which is just shit.

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    Its unacceptable

    Regardless of how shit you are in skill. Conor should have been better prepared physically. His energy shouldnt have disappeaered as quick as it did, its not like the fight was at a super pace. With all the money and resources he had available to him and given he has a fighting background, he should have done better. Im pretty sure you ufc guys can probably name a few fighters who wouldnt have gone the 12 no problem.

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    Generally speaking high level MMA guys are fitter than high level boxers. McGregor just doesn't prepare himself for the long haul. He's all about exploding early, and as I said earlier if he doesn't finish the fight during that early barrage he fades badly and he can become pretty turgid.

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    Going ten rounds with Mayweather isn't "shit" or "unacceptable". He wasn't expected to win and he did fall short, but he wasn't exactly embarrassed either. He did as well as any mid-level professional fighter would have hoped.
    The idea that he could have just trained harder is stupid. People have limits and these may be his.

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    Three months is also nothing for the kind of conditioning required.

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    He went ten rounds with Mayweather because Mayweather allowed it to last ten rounds.

    Anyway, some proper boxing coming up - including this maybe https://www.bloodyelbow.com/2017/8/2...pn-boxing-news

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    Kiko is correct. Mayweather took the path of least risk. He knew McGregor would be knackered and wouldn't have the skill or experience to defend himself. He just waited until the optimum moment to finish it.

    If he'd wanted to finish it earlier, he could have. McGregor did well enough in the context of what he is, and I maintain it was a worthwhile exercise even if the hype was a bit excessive, but there's no getting away from it that it was a mismatch. McGregor didn't help himself by poor conditioning, whatever his boxing skills may be.

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    His conditioning should be up to a standard. He shouldn't fall off that bad at round 5. He has been fighting his whole life. I wouldn't expect if amir khan had to go into round 13, his energy would just fall of a cliff like conor's did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John View Post
    Generally speaking high level MMA guys are fitter than high level boxers.
    How do you figure that one out?

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    Seems to me that mcgregor did exactly what he was most capable of - come out quick and hard and try to get a knockout.
    His problem wasn't a lack of conditioning, it's tough for anyone to keep up that pace.

    His problem was his inability to land any kind of telling blow on Mayweather, who just used his fantastic defensive skills to weather the storm and then start taking mcgregor apart once he was tiring, which is what most boxing pundits predicted.

    I thought mcgregor did better than I had expected

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    6.5 million buys apparently. Lord Conor McGregor.

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    $80m generated at the gate. $8m more than the previous record.

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    The whole sport is down the shitter when this is the prism everything is assessed through.

    Joshua v Klitschko was an infinitely superior fight on every conceivable level. How many 'buys' did it get?

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    Quote Originally Posted by niko_cee View Post
    The whole sport is down the shitter when this is the prism everything is assessed through.

    Joshua v Klitschko was an infinitely superior fight on every conceivable level. How many 'buys' did it get?
    Just over 1.1 million as mayweather/hatton held the record before it was broken by joshua/wlad

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    Quote Originally Posted by niko_cee View Post
    The whole sport is down the shitter when this is the prism everything is assessed through.
    The casual fans get duped into this kind of shit quite easily for some reason.

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    It's Conor McGregor. What were you expecting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pepe View Post
    The casual fans get duped into this kind of shit quite easily for some reason.
    There's something about 1v1 sports that turns the people that follow them into backseat GMs and if only they were running the ATP, Tennis would outsell Football.

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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/41286234



    "My son's been taught when a stranger puts their hands on them (to) punch and run away (in) self defence."

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    Why the kick, though? Snide little shit.

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    It would have been among the funniest things that have ever happened if he'd just knocked the little twat flat on his arse.

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    It speaks volumes that his scummy dad did nothing about it. The little shit will be stealing cars in no time.

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    Its canelo vs ggg this weekend.

    They also announced loma vs rigo for december

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    Canelo by decision. Its about to start a little early. Canelo to do ggg like mayweather did canelo.

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    What rounds have you got so far @SincereTheRebel?

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    Im not scoring it round for round but at the end of 9, ggg is winining. He has the moumentum for sure. From a corrupt boxing judge standpoint, its competitive enough to give it canelo though

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    That was such a good fight.

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    Ggg won the fight for me. Fairly clearly.

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    Some bullshit. That wasnt a draw. GGG won. The rematch was talked about before the fight and there you have it

    10-2 to canelo by that female judge is pure fuckris

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    Im just happy i get to see that again

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    I only saw from the fourth round on, but the fight I watched wasn't a draw. GGG won that comfortably.

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    I would like see a pacman vs marquez type of rivialry from this. I dont want to see an immediate rematch. I would like to see them go away and get wins. That means we have to wait to another year at least.

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    Both Guardian writers had it for GGG, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SincereTheRebel View Post
    I would like see a pacman vs marquez type of rivialry from this. I dont want to see an immediate rematch. I would like to see them go away and get wins. That means we have to wait to another year at least.
    Who would you have them fighting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SincereTheRebel View Post
    I would like see a pacman vs marquez type of rivialry from this. I dont want to see an immediate rematch. I would like to see them go away and get wins. That means we have to wait to another year at least.
    What fights would you recommend for the rest of the year?

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    Quote Originally Posted by John View Post
    Who would you have them fighting?


    Quote Originally Posted by Queenslander View Post
    What fights would you recommend for the rest of the year?
    Ggg to fight the charlo brother and canelo to fight david leminuex

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    Just finished watching it. That 118-110

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    Great fight, decision was off but some great counters from Canelo. The way GGG stalks is terrifying, on him from round 3/4.

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    That's a shambles and also ruins GGG's record.

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    GCCGGGGGGGCC

    118-110 fucking madness

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    i could see giving C the 1st and the 10th MAYBE.

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    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/...-boxer-age-38/

    Rio Ferdinand is going to become a professional boxer. The sport has gone to shit.

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    "This helped me get over my wife's death."

    Nah, you're still in it.

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    At least he doesn't have to worry about brain damage.

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