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[John Arne]

The more I see the Vettel incident, the more I think he should have been DQ'd - although I don't actually think he meant to ram him - he put himself alongside Hamilton and clearly turned into him (accidently or deliberately). Do that in any other race or situation and it's an immediate black flag.

Regarding the stewards investigating after the race - the commentators on my feed certainly believed that the incident was broken into 2 incidents;
- the rear shunting, to be investigated after the race
- the side-swipe that was penalised during the race

But yeah - it wasn't clear at all. I'm pretty certain that I saw a stewards message about the investigation happening after the race.

[John Arne]

Also, is it all possible that the headrest was unhatched either of the two times that Vettel smashed into Hamilton? I'm guessing not, given that it's kinda designed exactly not to do that, right?

[niko_cee]

He would have had to have taken the headrest off when the race was red flagged so some numpty just forgot to clip it on when they restarted. Unless, I suppose, it was somehow broken but this wasn't revealed until the car was up to race pace (so they unwittingly put a damaged one back on). That would be an interesting development, although wildly unlikely seeing as, as you say, I'd imagine it's designed to survive more than a mild rear-ending.

[John Arne]

Oh shit yeah, I forgot that the red flag happened in-between both incidents.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I'm not sure about the black flag, when do you ever see black flags? The only one I can remember was Schumacher getting one at Silverstone '94 when he refused to stop for a penalty.

[niko_cee]

Didn't he also get one for overtaking on the formation lap? That rings a bell.

[John Arne]

Schumacher chat reminded my of this old beauty...



I mean just look at the on-board.... blatantly just drives the car forward, even when he recovered the initial "lock up".

[Jimmy Floyd]

Didn't he also get one for overtaking on the formation lap? That rings a bell.

That was the same one. Got a stop-go penalty for it, failed to come in, was black flagged, and then failed to come in for that either. Finished second to Our Damon, but ended up being disqualified and I think even had a race ban which resulted in some JJ Lehto and/or Nicola Larini based madness, as things did in the 90s.

[SincereTheRebel]

How long has haas and roman been in q3 of qualifying?

[John Arne]

This presenter bloke is a massive clown.

[Shindig]

The MotoGP catch-up continues with France. Started with the Moto3 lot and .... I'm amazed nobody is dead. Seriously. So many riders being tagged and collected. Good set of races. Objectively the most watchable sport.

[John Arne]

Vettel is such a snivelling cunt.

Bottas' start looked fine to me.

Kvyat

[John Arne]

Ricciardo on starting from the back, "I'm going to merk some fools tomorrow"

[Disco]

Was Lewis just a half a second faster than everyone else or did something happen?

[Gray Fox]

It was just Lewis more than anything. He was a full second ahead of everyone after Q2 as well.

[niko_cee]

I'm sure the Ferrari operatives are on the case to get him demoted for blocking Grosjean. Presumaly Haas were bunged something (do they use Ferrari engines?) to not bother trying another lap when he had about 8 minutes to do so.

[Gray Fox]

No further action. Presumably he apologised and that was punishment enough.

[Disco]

Difference between Verstappen and Kvyat: the first makes a mistake and puts it right but going round the outside of Vettel on one of the longest corners on the track, the other gets annoyed and takes out his teammate.

[Gray Fox]

P45 incoming for Kvyat.

[Disco]

What's happened to Brundle, they said he'd been taken ill.

[Gray Fox]

Hopefully he hasn't done a Jerry Lawler.

[Disco]

Just found this as an alternative to the (now behind a paywall) live timing site. https://f1.tfeed.net/live

[Shindig]

Give that Max Verstappen a championship winning car and he will win the championship.

.... yes. Anyone in a championship winning car is likely to win a championship. Stick to telling us about pit stops.

[Disco]

This is hilarious.

[Gray Fox]

Well that all kicked off at the end.

[Shindig]

Happy for that. Lewis being brought back into contention should be good, providing his car doesn't bin itself. Bottas is bringing it home as well, these days.

Moto3 in Mugello was nuts. 20 bikes running for the win. Great stuff.

[Gray Fox]

1 point and another of Hamiltons favoured tracks next. He probably should be ahead going into the break. But then again he was at this point last season.

[John Arne]

Di Resta in for Massa with about 2 hours until qualifying

[John Arne]

Kvyat, having spun, returning back onto the track right in front of speeding Perez. He really is a fucking idiot.

[Disco]

Not too shabby from Di Resta considering the circumstances. He at least avoided Badoer levels of humiliation.

[John Arne]

Yeah, he did well - and got faster with basically every lap he did.

[Gray Fox]

Not sure if anyones watching. Ferrari have firmly set the stall out here.

Vettel has a car problem and has had Kimi on a piece of string behind him almost all of the race, but they're refusing to let him by to get the win.

Hamilton who was behind Bottas similarly has been allowed to pass on the proviso he gives the pace back should he not do it.

[Giggles]

Not sure if anyones watching. Ferrari have firmly set the stall out here.

Vettel has a car problem and has had Kimi on a piece of string behind him almost all of the race, but they're refusing to let him by to get the win.

Hamilton who was behind Bottas similarly has been allowed to pass on the proviso he gives the pace back should he not do it.

Yeah, Ferrari always wrong. Everyone else always right.

[Gray Fox]

Turns out Ferrari were right. Pretty boring to see though.

[Giggles]

They're clearly ruining the sport by not letting 'lewis' romp to the title. The cunts.

[Disco]

On a different track they would both have been passed, then again it wasn't a different track so probably the right call. I wonder if it would have been any different had Hamilton been able to communicate properly prior to the first stop.

Also lol at anyone expecting Ferrari to let their second driver through, has that ever happened when it actually mattered?

[John Arne]

Giggles

[Giggles]

Giggles

Every race Ferrari have any success in it's the same shite here.

[Disco]

Ferrari should be out in front of everyone else, they have a built in advantage.

[Gray Fox]

It would have been just as boring if Mercedes and Ferrari had swapped places.

[niko_cee]

How does the Hungarian Grand Prix keep going? Does their government plough loads of cash into it? It's hardly a glamour race, and it's the shittest circuit perhaps ever conceived outside of the brain of Herman Tilke. It's not like it even has any meaningful history. I can sort of understand the other central European shite (Austria) due to the sponsorship, but who gives a fuck about the Magyars?

[Disco]

I like it, it has some actual history. I think it has a place on the calendar too, as much as Monaco, Canada etc.

[Shindig]

They hold quite a few races there and it's always going to be well supported from Germans, Austrians and Finns.

[John Arne]

Every race Ferrari have any success in it's the same shite here.

What shite? I'm not being flippant - I genuinely want to know which comments you think are so outrageously biased against Ferrari?

[Jimmy Floyd]

Hungary was brought in by Bernie late 80s as one of his first acts (iirc) to symbolise the fall, or impending fall, of the iron curtain and the economic opportunities he imagined might follow.

Not liking Ferrari is perfectly legitimate, they're a bunch of preening tossers and always have been since the old man was happy to let all their drivers die in the 50s.

[Clunge]

Kind of like Hungary because it's still a proper(ish) circuit, even if all the gravel has gone to be replaced by run-offs.

[Shindig]

Someone at the Beeb is having a laugh. They've swapped Alonso and Hamilton's grid spots. It have my heart a flutter.

[John Arne]

Alonso crying into his helmet makes me so happy.

[Gray Fox]

I don't think Hamilton will get away with not stopping again here. Vettel just needs to stay in his mirrors and he should be in for a win.

[SincereTheRebel]

I turned my head when the pink cars went through the corners up the hill. I thought there was gonna be a big accident.