Fucking idiots, the first lap should have been warning enough.
Fucking idiots, the first lap should have been warning enough.
That Force India debrief should be televised
I thought Ocon had his share of the blame as well, pair of absolute morons.
Have Mercedes borked this?
I think Mercedes have chucked this. At least go onto the super softs.
There's something about Les Combes, what a fucking electric defence that was by Hamilton.
They don't have any more sets of SS to use, and you'd back Hamilton to defend a lead 9 times out of 10.
ON the FI thing, I thought Ocon was silly to put his car into that gap but Lord Brundle is blaming Perez '100%' so what do I know.
I missed a few laps - did Alonso have a problem or did he just give up and quit because "waaa waaa my car isn't very fast"?
He asked if there was any chance of rain then retired the car citing a 'loss of power'.
50/50 Ocon vs Perez for me.
Ocon had every right to go for it and was given no room by Perez which was utterly stupid.
By the same token though, if Ocon had just bedn patient a few more corners, he's have nailed him on the straight.
Either way, it all conspired to allow Ricciardo to do another bitchin' over take and become hero of the day again.
Great defending from Hamilton at the re-start. Track position just seemed too important after that. As cited by the cards being switched in Raikkonen and Bottas and the same situation occuring.
So Lewis Hamilton has written a poem about Princess Diana? I dread to click.
Fucking hell.
Giggles, go to town mate.
I take it all back. Forza Ferrari.
These F1 drivers are so soft. There is a little rain at monza. and they are on the radio claiming its too dangerous. You earn all these fame. These are the conditions that separate the men from the boys.
Or the living from the dead.
Hmmm .... field's split on tires. Could mix this grid up.
Ocon starting from third. Ferraris a row back.
You know you're having a bad day when it's raining and Felipe Massa still beats you. Also, is Lance Stroll actually decent? It's so hard to tell but that's the third or fourth time he's looked like the real deal.
Surely this is going to be a Hamilton procession, unless Vettel overtakes the Willaims and Force India by the end of the 2 lap or so. In fact, even if he does, I don't think he will keep up with Hamilton.
Max is getting to be a bit of a crash magnet.
Alonso appears to be having a nervous breakdown.
Renault engines next year, man. He'll be fine.
Alonso still asking "where is Palmer". He is such an unlikeable twat.
Ricciardo however
I was reminded of the Prost-Heidfeld Formula E incident earlier.... I still cant believe that Prost only got a 10 grid penalty for it... the guy should have been banned from all motor racing for 2 years..
He checked his mirrors three times. Pre-meditated.Venturi driver Heidfield welcomed Prost's apology, adding that he accepted his rival would not "drive anybody off on purpose".
Exactly... checked his mirrors... waited... then literally swerved into him at high speed. Unbelievable (Jeff).
Not the topic of conversation but what the fuck are those tracks. I've seen wider roads in Naples. You couldn't over-take each other on scooters on that shit.
It's a series heavy on the street circuits. Not great when you consider how wide the cars are. Street circuits are very spectator-friendly but tend to do little for the drivers.
There's street circuits and then there's barriers either side of the cars like a cattle farm.
That crash is savage.
FIA stewards really don't like punishing drivers for deliberately ramming someone do they.
This is interesting: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/41265779
More fuel for the rumour that they're planning to pull out altogether.
Sounds like Renault are dumping them more than the other way round. By then they will have their works team, McLaren as customers... maybe two is enough for them.
Puts old Seb under pressure, as Ferrari are going to want one of those Red Bull drivers to replace Kimi, or at least they should do.
Ferrari dont like young drivers. They are like the chelsea of f1
Rather tellingly Kimi just signed his new deal about a week before Vettel confirmed an extension to his. Looks like they're happy to mollify him with a clear number 2 even if it does harm their Constructor points. I suppose that doesn't really matter so much when you get given £100m extra just for kicks, I wonder where they'd have to finish in the CC to end up with less prize money than the winners. Is it even possible?
The formula is far more engine centric than it's been for years and RB really don't like it, there are huge penalties for leaving before 2020 so they may well run the operation down or sell part of it to a manufacturer to help cut costs even further. They already have a pre-existing relationship with Aston who could see F1 as an attractive prospect if Liberty make it all a bit more sensible. All speculation of course, but you don't sell as many fizzy drinks from a midfield team in a sport that is seen as less edgy than other things Austrian billionaires could spend their money on.
McLaren will never be good again will they
It's been said a few times over the last few years but their chassis is supposed to be one of the best on the grid, although I'm not sure how you're supposed to tell. Williams are the ones I worry about, they need an over 25 in one of their cars (because sponsors) and there aren't a lot of options on the grid that aren't Jolyon Palmer. Then again I suppose Willy are now the posters boys for 'I'm here because my dad was good/rich'
McLaren will be good again (or top 10 runners, at least) once they bin off these disastrous Japanese motors.
Over 25 drivers are hard to come by when people are constantly getting sent to tin tops at 23 because the next 20 year old has shown up. Very few solid grand prix drivers around in the way there used to be - Checo Perez and Grosjean the closest things to it.
They've kept their personnel even after a few years of abject failure, so the signs are decent for a revival.
There were rumours the other day that Porsche will buy out the Red Bull team (but keep them as a sponsor) and be ready for 2021.
That's the way it would happen but it probably needs Liberty to set out how the new deal for 2020 will work before any manufacturers commit.
I don't know why they would bother, but if they did you would expect them to run everything as a proper works team straight out of Stuttgart. They aren't really the sort to build the engines and out-source the rest.
Historically it's been far better to buy an existing team, convincing people who know what they're doing to move to Stuttgart to start from scratch would be a bit mental. Especially these days when there's Sauber, Force India, Toro Rosso, and maybe even Red Bull who would be available to buy.
That would make sense, but all the stories I have read implied that they would just re-brand the stationary in Milton Keynes.
That's all anyone ever does. Ferrari, WIlliams, and McLaren are the only ones who are the same team they started as.
The current Mercedes incarnation I think you can just about trace back to Ken Tyrrell.
Tyrell - BAR - Honda - Brawn - Mercedes
That is part of why I don't see what they (or the wider Volkswagenreich) would get from it.
The same thing Mercedes get from putting their stickers on at Brackley: prestige and brand prominence.
It's basically a way to get advertising out of R&D that you would be doing anyway. Hence why people like BMW, Toyota, Honda etc walked away when it was an aero formula with engine technology from last century. Now the engines etc are more relevant (and it's not being run by a mental octogenarian) they're slowly coming back because they see a return on the money they put in.
Porsche could never race again and they would still be the greatest brand in motorsport, and the research and development side would appear to be covered by them (and others) piling into Formula E at the expense of the mega expensive Le Mans programmes they were running. There is less scope for engine development through Formula 1 where they are concerned.
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