So they agree with the premise that "the planet is fucked" and given that no one is actually going to "develop a global economy driven by sustainable energy sources using CO2 instead of waste product" one might even say "there's nothing we can do about it at this point".Originally Posted by Pepe
Awesome, thanks for sharing.
Is it that there is nothing we can do, or is it that no one is actually going to do it?
we as in you and I, the normal layman, not the world's governments.
*reserved for snarky Spikey reply to literally everything*
Voting for a cunt that thinks it is all a hoax certainly doesn't help.
Sometimes I put food waste in the normal bin.
Also, two of the most impactful things could be done just by 'the layman' without the need for government intervention: change your diet and stop commuting by car.
Vegetarian meals
*marks Pepe down for "Yes, I will gladly give myself a minor inconvenience for absolutely no reason"*
Jesus, how hard was that?
To give a somewhat serious response:
I don't know (or care as much as I should) if it's too late, but I know it doesn't matter either way. Things won't change in any real way until some serious shit kicks off. Actually, probably not even then. The folk that engineered the world economy around oil don't give a fuck about a chunk of Indonesia disappearing.
Exactly! That's what I'm trying to say. Nothing is gonna change, why the fuck would you keep the A/C off "for the planet!"
I'm not saying go set a bunch of tires on fire and piss in Mother Nature's face but I certainly feel like there's a line where you're just doing this shit for yourself, rather than "the planet".
In terms of energy I'm not going to freeze or roast to save the planet it'll be to save me money.
If you don't recycle you're definitely a cunt though.
Of course you're doing it for yourself, that's the whole point.
China, by the way, the gas guzzlers they are, invests more new money in renewable energy than the US or Europe. They're also still party to the Paris agreement.
Pepe was the only person who even motioned in that direction, and he was operating on a mistaken assumption.
You're arguing against a position no one has taken there.
Jesus fucking Christ..... I saw someone say something about it and asked if anyone actually had that stance.. no one answered and just asked me for my opinion, so I gave said opinion.
Why the fuck are all of you like this?
Ah yes, the agreement they signed to actually do less for their emissions than they were already apparently on track to do. Awesome.
The minute America pulled out of the Paris Agreement China cancelled a load of coal plants and committed shitloads of spending to renewable energy research.
True.
Also, there is a lot more to 'the environment' than global warming. Even if the two scenarios bruhnaldo presents were really the two only possible outcomes, being more mindful about how we use our resources would be beneficial in both instances.
But he's quite clearly a cunt and is incapable of such unselfish thinking.
It should be pointed out that climate change isn't really 'beyond the point of no return' too. It may take hundreds (thousands?) of years, but if we stopped using fossil fuels / were wiped out the planet would go back to normal in the blink of an eye.
Aside from the crumbling structures and plastic bags, anyway.
Indeed. 'Sustainability' is about a lot more than global warming. It is about how we operate our economies and societies. Most of the things we could do to reduce CO2 emissions would also be beneficial to society as a whole in any case. But there is no room for big ideas nowadays. Everything is run by bean counters who think slashing some benefits or adding a couple of dollars to the minimum wage will somehow solve all of our problems. Any sort of massive investment, which is basically what we need, is a complete no-go. And so we march towards a shiter future that everyone sees coming.
Does anyone think that, say, the highway system would have ever been built by the current lot? Or would the US ever get stuck in a space race? The second someone suggested anything of that magnitude, cries over the taxpayer's money would drown everything else.
How I imagined this conversation actually going:
I'm just going to pretend that's how it went down instead if that's okay.
Not everything is about you.
What an odd response.
wHaT aN oDd ReSpOnSe
I imagined the conversation stopping at the dickhead wearing flip flops.
What material were they made of?
Probably leather and non-recyclable plastics.
Bruh is definitely the american Smiffy
Far too much there so I had to skim, but I just wanted to acknowledge Pepe's great fuck the environment sentiment.
I had a free 5 minutes and read it now. I just wouldn't run the A/C if I didn't need it because it'd save me money.
Whatever that means
£450 to fix my boiler.
Are you not supposed to be an engineer? Unless that's £450 on parts then you've failed.
£250 of parts, the rest was fault finding and labour.
If I'd followed the manual I'd have replaced the wrong thing, given what the guy had to do to fix it.
I'd suggest roping Magic in but all he can do is install a phone line.
I could make it so your boiler could auto call a plumber?
I couldn't really because I'm terrified of cabling and DIY.
I've gone and lost about €1000 of wedding money
It's down the back of the telly.
How?I've gone and lost about €1000 of wedding money
Put it somewhere in the house or car until I could get a days holidays to lodge it. Absolutely not one iota where it is but I've checked anywhere I might leave it. I could have had it in the glove box of the car when it went in for service so good luck to that if so.
Only thing is that it was worth about €1000 to us, but if it was robbed they'll only have got 500 sterling as the rest was sterling cheques and a bank draft.
Dry your eyes mate.
Expected from some hippy cunt.
Use it as an excuse to cut some guests.
It was presents we got. It's not a massive deal as I'll just forego the laptop I was buying to make it up and teach myself a lesson but it's annoying that I can't recall even one tiny detail about what I did with it.
You made the money up in your head, so you haven't actually lost anything.
I'd have done well as it was the first time in my life I'd seen a £100 note.
Perhaps you got steaming one night, your willpower cracked and you horsed it all on tomatoes and spaghetti and you don't remember.
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