It does indeed feel like it's slowing down, which is a shame because I think the mechanics of this game have been good and made it different to the usual ones.
Is there a strategy for THE FIVE? Because I'm happy to follow whatever.
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It does indeed feel like it's slowing down, which is a shame because I think the mechanics of this game have been good and made it different to the usual ones.
Is there a strategy for THE FIVE? Because I'm happy to follow whatever.
I say we lump on Matt and the other five vote elsewhere.
Isn't it fairly clear (from the story) that Maz wasn't Burnham? Jimmy's had a little Andy's worried preface which makes sense within the wider story of Burnham being spared at the cost of another wolf, without that, and without Maz voting (for himself) to get a night kill it seems more likely than not that Burnham remains at large within THE FIVE. Would be nice to see some activity.
The last couple of days really have been slow.
I'm going to look into the various votes of the nominees and see who is most likely to be a wolf, unless obviously it's best to do something else to narrow down a Burnham. To be perfectly honest I'm tired of plans I think that's one of the reason that the game has slowed down, it's basically gone to game theory rather than intuition.
edit: and I agree with Niko, I'm pretty sure Maz was not Burnham.
My one can't really work without five nominees, unless we expect/encourage somebody not to vote. So we can either go with the plan we've used already of spreading the votes in a bid to find Burnham, or we can just fuck it all off and vote for whoever we like.
I'm happy to not vote if it helps.
How does your five nominees plan go, Toby? Does it need to consist of THE FIVE?
Yes. The five might-still-be-Burnhams would vote for the lynchee, and the rest of the votes would be split out evenly. If the five followed the plan, we would know for certain if Burnham was among them. But it can't work without five nominees (or abstained votes) because there are still 18 of us in the game (I think?).Quote:
Originally Posted by P_3
The other plan is better as it provides kill denial as well, to an extent, or will provide a new field of Burnhams, I suppose. I would quite like to be able to vote this time. Abstaining is a bit dull, but I'll hold off until there is either a plan, or no plan decision. I would say plan, and we five vote for one of the non-lynch candidates.
If the 5 would be Burnham's vote for 1 guy and everyone else piles on someone else to kill them off, that will answer the question. However it seems redundant. A better plan is probably to split the votes in order to find a new Burnham shortlist, and if any of THE FIVE are on that shortlist then I guess we kill them?
Yep, that makes more sense. With that in mind:
Niko - Vim - Matt - 7om
The Matt situation is tricky.
It is certainly the most efficient town strategy to pile on him and try to draw Burnham out. I'm just not sure it is the most moral/fair method.
Niko - Vim - Matt - 7om
The downside, of course, if is Burnham isn't one of the 5 he might be able to hind behind one of the 5. I'll just hope I can avoid that happening to me. Who are the other members?
0-1-1-0
Will change my vote later if need be.
No it isn't. We don''t have a short list for Burnham. Chances are all of the 5 are innocent. Therefore if we pile on someone we're not getting any closer to an answer.Quote:
Originally Posted by niko_cee
Niko - Vim - Matt - 7om
Sorry Matt, but if we're just picking someone to vote on then it's got to be you.
Niko - Vim - Matt - 7om
Yeah, what SvN said.
Well, this works for me, because when the Wolves get a kill it'll clear my name.
But... I still think it's stupid.
It seems Matt is the chosen. It will be disappointing if he is a wolf. To keep to the plan of not being on the winning horse
Niko - Vim - Matt - 7om
Late Hammer vote. I think it is more likely Vim but this is to spread it about a bit.
Niko - Vim - Matt - 7om
Going to go with my nomination. As unlikely as the wolves were to carry out the same strategy as when Jimmy voted late, you had a choice to vote Pepe but didn't. Sorry 7om.
Niko - Vim - Matt - 7om
Spreading the votes out as planned.
Niko - Vim - Matt - 7om
Choosing between Vim and Niko in the interests of vote-spreading as of the other two I'd possibly go for Matt and that'd give him a relatively chunky lead already.
I think there's something in Matt said, regardless of whether he was saying it to cover himself. With a sensible systematic approach to follow there doesn't seem to be much point shouting the odds unless you have an alternative plan. Not saying that;'s the whole story but it possibly is for some people.Quote:
Originally Posted by Browning
I thought it was just us Fivers who were meant to be spreading.
That's how I read it as well.
That would be a good plan if Burnham is definitely one if the 5. He's not though so spreading out everyone's votes seems to make more sense.
I'm fairly sure he is still in the 5, going off the write-up.
Niko - Vim - Matt - 7om
He's a wolf.
So him and Maz both decided to nominate Jimmy?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mahow
Yes, I believe they did.
A double bluff.
You only need 1 wolf to win and the best way to do that is to double cross your team-mates and look like you're all for the town.
Niko - Vim - Matt - 7om
He's the one I'm most suspicious of.
Niko - Vim - Matt - 7om
One of the 5 is a wolf and I believe its Vim. Thats all we know for certain at the minute. Im not a wolf and killing me off does nothing but lesser the numbers so Corbyn can be taken out by the wolves.
If I do go this round i'd suggest taking a look at Mahow. Im fairly certain Niko isn't a wolf and has even offered to be the person lynched to try and draw out Burnham yet Mahow is still convinced he's a wolf. He claimed this with Maz as well and was correct because Maz was his wolfy friend. Just above he suggests the best way for the wolves to win is by double crossing each other which is what he did with Maz to gain the towns trust.
What time does voting close? is it 8 or 9? I may change my vote later if it will save me
Niko - Vim - Matt - 7om
Sticking with my nomination, as I said, Mahow got it right last round and Niko was his pick this time so I'll go with that.
Niko - Vim - Matt - 7om
He seems suspicious to me.
So, 4-1.
Niko - Vim - Matt - 7om
I can't see Niko being a bad guy, really, but this is self preservation.
6-3-3-2
What?Quote:
Originally Posted by The Merse
It's 5-3-3-2 by my count.
EDIT: 6-3-3-2 now.
I'm imagining that's the votes of "the 5" although I can't remember who the 5 are, so I'd have to check.
Nope, it's not that. The 5 are split 2-2-1
Oh feck. Missed a page. Thought you lot were being quiet.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Merse
I basically preferred when you railroaded the first couple so I had hours to do the write up.
What time does this close now?
Niko - Vim - Matt - 7om
Just gonna do what Niko does.
Oh well, it's only fair you level things up and give the wolves a shot at Corbyn.
Oh look, and Burnham has voted for me as well. Enjoy your death Jeremy.
is this directed at me?Quote:
Originally Posted by niko_cee
No, it's directed at the person who has voted for me who is among THE FIVE (ie Burnham).
oh, you mean 7om then.
:D
Merse has certainly had fun with some of this.
Oh wait, he's voted for me as well. Oops. All the better. You're not even going to have a clear idea of who Burnham is next round.
I can't even remember who THE FIVE were now.
What?Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt
Maz was pretty much under no suspicion (other than being in 'THE LIST') and then I noticed some dodgy patterns, if I was a wolf I would not have pulled the carpet out from under his feet.
The 5 are me, Vim, P_3, Niko and 7om. The notion that one of us is DEFINITELY Burnham is flawed, but that doesn't make it impossible.
2 of the 5 have voted for Niko. No idea which one he's pissed at. I'm guessing 7om as he didn't correct Panda, but could be Vim.
Fuck knows what I've done. As Browning has said, the five list may not actually contain Burnham if Maz was him last round.
I did say I thought it was Vim, from a fair while back. Hence why he didn't take the chance to do the double kill when Maz went west (who I still can't really believe was a wolf) - as he would had to have bopped himself in the process. I'm open to suggestion though. Reprieve doesn't seem likely, so good luck.