[FOOTY] Weekend Fixtures ft. El Clasico, the Rome derby and Pep v Conte

Full TV listings here.

FRIDAY

FA Cup 2nd Round
Macclesfield Town v Oxford United - 19:55 BBC Two

Championship
Nottingham Forest v Newcastle United - 19:45 Sky

Other
Napoli v Inter Milan - 19:45 BT
Mainz v Bayern Munich - 19:30 BT

SATURDAY

Premier League
Manchester City v Chelsea - 12:30 Sky
Crystal Palace v Southampton
Stoke City v Burnley
Sunderland v Leicester City
Tottenham Hotspur v Swansea City
West Bromwich Albion v Watford
West Ham United v Arsenal - 17:30 BT

FA Cup 2nd Round
Blackpool v Brackley Town
Carlisle United v Rochdale
Charlton Athletic v Milton Keynes Dons
Chesterfield v Wycombe Wanderers
Luton Town v Solihull Moors
Plymouth Argyle v Newport County
Shrewsbury Town v Fleetwood Town
Sutton United v Cheltenham Town

Championship
Birmingham City v Barnsley
Blackburn Rovers v Huddersfield Town
Bristol City v Ipswich Town
Burton Albion v Rotherham United
Cardiff City v Brighton & Hove Albion
Fulham v Reading
Norwich City v Brentford
Sheffield Wednesday v Preston North End
Wigan Athletic v Derby County
Leeds United v Aston Villa - 17:30 Sky

Other
Motherwell v Celtic - 12:15 Sky
Barcelona v Real Madrid - 5:15 Sky [delayed coverage of the full 90 minutes, more info here.]
Porto v Braga - 20:30 BT

SUNDAY

Premier League
Bournemouth v Liverpool - 13:30 Sky
Everton v Manchester United - 16:00 Sky

FA Cup 2nd Round - 14:00 unless noted
Curzon Ashton v AFC Wimbledon - 12:00 BT
Bolton Wanderers v Sheffield United
Bristol Rovers v Barrow
Cambridge United v Coventry City
Eastleigh v FC Halifax Town
Millwall v Braintree Town
Notts County v Peterborough United
Stourbridge v Northampton Town
Woking v Accrington Stanley
Port Vale v Hartlepool United - 15:00

Other
Lazio v Roma - 14:00 BT

MONDAY

Premier League
Middlesbrough v Hull City - 20:00 Sky

FA Cup 2nd Round
Lincoln City v Oldham Athletic - 19:45 BT

effort!

Do Nottingham Forest supporters begin every single home match against teams other than Villa, United, Liverpool and now Chelsea with a rendition of 'Champions of Europe, you'll never sing that' ?

What an utterly tedious football club.

Benfica tonight at Maritimo and a chance to put pressure on the other lot chasing them.

I'm hoping a decent performance for united tomorrow but we keep failing in the league so I wouldn't be surprised if it's crap.

Was definitely a bit of a lash out, but you feel he's been sent off there because the linesman thinks he kicked Lansbury in the face.

And how is that a foul?

When did that Bendtner shitehawk turn up at Forest?

Jesus christ

Isn't that Dummett one specifically not a red card anymore? Aside from the fact it wasn't a foul. Or is a penalty not actually a goal scoring opportunity for Forest? Lansbury should get the same length ban as Shelvey for being a cheating cunt.

I'm seething.

Forest will win and win easily. Pile on it.

Turn up for the books so far in Portugal. Luisao is looking like an ancient defender and is being run ragged by Maritimo. They lead 1-0.

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Turn up for the books so far in Portugal. Luisao is looking like an ancient defender and is being run ragged by Maritimo. They lead 1-0.

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I've a thread already opened for all the shit.

When your entire product is built around Barcelona vs Real Madrid, putting it on at 15:15 on a Saturday is as bad as that thirty-ninth game in Dubai shit.

'sake. Fuck this cunt league.

Surely that Forest player (Assombalonga?) was offside there?

It's going to end about 5-1, as long as someone breaks Lansbury's legs I don't really care now.

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When your entire product is built around Barcelona vs Real Madrid, putting it on at 15:15 on a Saturday is as bad as that thirty-ninth game in Dubai shit.

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It often seems to be on at that time, gets the evening slot in Asia and morning/lunchtime in Latin America, England is irrelevant.

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Surely that Forest player (Assombalonga?) was offside there?

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By miles, and him getting involved in that move was the most brainless piece of football I've seen for ages, thankfully for them not spotted by the linesman with a teenager's haircut.

That linesman must be there on work experience. He cannot be serious.

There are a number of people who may well be impostors in this match, the Forest goalkeeper being another.

Thank fuck, Reg. I thought we were going to be using that midweek thread until March.

Gonna go and piss in the shower.

Pep v Conte will probably end up being a handshake and a pint later around the corner of the stadium.

Nil-nil or a wild Auergo appears to disturb the status quo.

Fabregas in for Matic, bye bye the league lead.

Which one of Kev the Brown and T-bone was it that shagged the other's wife?

Lol at Man City trying to match Chelsea with three at the back. Chelsea to run riot

Stones is a complete joke of a player.

Chelsea should really smack these about here. Sane as a non-wingback and Kolarov in the back four will mean space galore.

Why do they keep saying John Stones 'needs to learn' when to fanny about in his own box? I'm older than him, admittedly, but I know when and when not to.

It's amazing how Hazard can go from being a complete waster to comfortably the best player in the league in the space of six months.

Looks like another too clever by half team selection from Guardiola. Sane at left wing back?

Chelsea look dangerous everytime they go forward.

Nice to see @Reg taking the WDYTOE feedback on board. Top threading.

Otamendi should have been shown a second yellow for dissent there. Just gone through a bloke like the dirty Argie he is and then screamed in the referee's face for a full minute.

The curse of professional footballers utterly refusing to use their weaker foot strikes again.

Get rid of that joker

Curse of @Waffdon thinking he has a clue about football also strikes again. Pep :cool:

Who the fuck are you?

This seems like the best game I've watched in ages.

I know he saved that goal but Cahill is such a mong.

Given that City have a far better squad than we do (Alonso lol), we're doing pretty well in this game. Just need to create a chance.

Cahill is something else.

Fucking hell.

Touch of the Ronny Rosenthal there.

That was lovely.

Chelsea's defence acting how it should with this display. Two pathetic defences.

This has been a great game, slightly let down by Leroy Sané's efforts at left wing back but otherwise of a very high standard.

lol

YES

Claudio Bravo is not good enough to keep goal at this level.

Perfect counter attack but lol at Otamendi diving in and getting rolled AGAIN.

Fuck you adamski

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Fuck you adamski

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Haha Touché!

Costa has been fucking supreme.

Yaya Toure to step up as nonchalantly as you like to level it. :cool:

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Costa has been fucking supreme.

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A beast all year thus far, particularly as he's spent the last 8ish games on four yellows.

For some reason I fear the arrival of Ian Nacho more than the other City players.

lol. Pep absolutely seething.

Hehe. Poor Pep.

Lol at City

Claudio Bravo is bobbins.

Imagine when Conte gets his hands on some proper defenders, they'll be a real force.

Hazard an absolute joy today.

Bring back John Hart.

Pep getting donned senseless here. Turns out it's pretty tough when you don't have Messi or aren't caning Darmstadt U-14s every other week.

Disgraceful from Aguero, should be a lengthy ban.

Spectacular collective head loss here.

Aguero should miss months and months for that. Attempt to seriously injure an opponent.

If this was United losing it Jose Mourinho would get slaughtered.

That was hilarious

Enjoying Neville going against the "we don't like to see this" narrative. Complete nonsense of course.

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If this was United losing it Jose Mourinho would get slaughtered.

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Guardiola was leading the charge with his absolute nonsense sarcastic applauding of the ref. Embarrassing for him, embarrassing for City as a club.

Good game that. Poor defending in the main but entertaining throughout.

Chelsea's first goal was class. Fabregas. :cool:

I thought City's selection and system worked alright first half but Pep perhaps slow to change things once it started going against them.

Still astounded at Aguero's 'tackle', the bloke's on god knows what a week, his team's most important player by far, but thinks nah actually I'll lose my head and assault this bloke because I didn't get a decision off him earlier, and with it misses the next three plus more if there's any justice. Must be absolutely thick as shit.

Given the week South American football has had you'd think they'd have a bit more perspective.

Sergio Aguero is a petulant Argie rat, and he has form for that.

I'd be surprised if he was thinking about the earlier decision, or thinking at all. He was just frustrated and handled it terribly.

I've always got the impression that Aguero is on Carlos Tevez levels of moron and he kind of confirmed it today. Absolute cunt's trick with that tackle and Fernandinho embarrassed himself badly as well.

Conte donned it and I loved every minute of that second half.

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Originally Posted by 7om

I've always got the impression that Aguero is on Carlos Tevez levels of moron and he kind of confirmed it today. Absolute cunt's trick with that tackle and Fernandinho embarrassed himself badly as well.

Conte donned it and I loved every minute of that second half.

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Did he? Not to take away from their performance but Chelsea could easily have been three down after an hour.

Was it David Luiz who Aguero double footed the other year back, an FA Cup final maybe?

If you don't take your chances then you don't score goals. It's not unlucky, it's shit finishing and that applies to both Manchester clubs.

Amazed nobody's pulled Claudio Bravo up on that second goal as well (unless I've missed it), he might as well have been hugging the corner flag, left the entire net open.

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If you don't take your chances then you don't score goals. It's not unlucky, it's shit finishing and that applies to both Manchester clubs.

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I would agree. You can be fortunate the other team's finishing is shit if your defending is woeful but that doesn't mean the team missing all the chances is somehow unfortunate.

The same same applies to having a good goalkeeper, mind. Nobody thinks you've fluked your way through games if you have a brilliant, consistent goalscorer but if for some reason your goalkeeper makes a lot of good saves it's like that shouldn't count.

What did Fernandinho actually do to get sent off? I only saw him having fisticuffs with his own backroom staff.

Shoved Fabregas in the throat a couple of times and over the advertising board I thought.

Kept pushing Fabregas in the throat before making him fall over the advertising board into the crowd.

He was just standing there, and Fernandinho started seething over nothing. He probably lolled under his breath at City 'running out of fuel'.

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Still astounded at Aguero's 'tackle', the bloke's on god knows what a week, his team's most important player by far, but thinks nah actually I'll lose my head and assault this bloke because I didn't get a decision off him earlier, and with it misses the next three plus more if there's any justice. Must be absolutely thick as shit.

Given the week South American football has had you'd think they'd have a bit more perspective.

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:lol: That last sentence. Twat.

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Originally Posted by Lewis

He was just standing there, and Fernandinho started seething over nothing. He probably lolled under his breath at City 'running out of fuel'.

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It looks in the replay a bit like Fabregas gives him a little slap in the face beforehand.

Agüero needs to be banned for a long time for that tackle.

It's the first tackle I've seen for a long time where there was a clear intent to cause injury, usually those straight red tackles are just terrible misjudgements or a rush of blood.

He went in to end Luiz's season if not career. Like you said it's not just a spur of the moment misjudgment, I think this kind of tackle needs to be punished hard.

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He was just standing there, and Fernandinho started seething over nothing. He probably lolled under his breath at City 'running out of fuel'.

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Fucking hell :lol:

It's Luiz though so a one game ban should do. Or a medal.

Enjoying Bet365's more chilled commentary.

"It's almost as if Messi is the complete player. He's got blonde hair, dark hair and a ginger beard."

https://twitter.com/Jayzinq/status/8...rc=twsrc%5Etfw

Fabregas looks behind and just falls behind the ad boards himself on purpose. :D

There's always a few filthy tackles around this time from players trying to get sent off so they can skip Xmas games :drool:

Mascherano really is a cunt

Modric is such a fucking boss man

I would club a baby seal to put him next to Pogba.

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What an absolute bellend.

The stream I've got this Ronaldo match on is moaning about 'niggling fouls' getting in the way of free-flowing football. Is this your first time watching this game, mate?

Aguero tackle wasn't that bad. Solid red card. Wasn't a Ben thatcher or Shawcross challenge.

The intent was there.

Anyone watching the 'Clasico' on BeIn sport. They've got a really crap Sid Wardell impersonator and an American on commentary.

'That pass from the illusionista was as smooth as the back of a spoon'

Fuck off.

Sutton :cool:

Gwan.

Sergio Ramos and his Big Goals. lol at Barcelona. Time for a new bin man.

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Anyone watching the 'Clasico' on BeIn sport. They've got a really crap Sid Wardell impersonator and an American on commentary.

'That pass from the illusionista was as smooth as the back of a spoon'

Fuck off.

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It's terrible isn't it, the geordie guy is the worst commentator I've ever heard.

Sergio Ramos is incredible

We are so hilariously shit this season :D

Still not HUGELY upset about it yet. Probably because I'm off to Porto on Monday.

Sunderland are starting their run early this year. I'd like to think my session with them on PES resulted in some voodoo curse.

Moyes must have been close to being gone. Delighted to see him get them on a bit of form.

Back to calling it "Upton Park"?

Sanchez

:drool: :drool: :drool:

That last goal from him was pure filth.

The top four will stay as it is assuming Chelsea replace Gary Cahill.

Well we're top with Gary Cahill having played every game so he can't be that much of a problem. Zouma is playing reserves and that though.

David Luiz has been colossal so far, which was unexpected.

Got a tad lucky today though not to be 2-0 down. He's fine against the meh teams but has been atrocious in the two games against a decent side.

Hazard is magical.

Edit: forgot about Zouma - he'll be a colossus with his pace in this formation

I suspect Zouma may ultimately come in for Marcos Alonso, who you can't knock but he's basically blagging it, and then Dave, whose positioning in a back three is a bit all over the place, will resume hostilies on the left. That will give Cahill a bit more freedom to get lost and kick it into his own face.

Chris Sutton on MOTD :drool:

Aguero has already had a three game ban no? So that's a minimum four game ban for a second red I think? Even if the FA don't decide to increase it by more.

It wasn't exactly the Helen Lovejoy special that everyone is making it out to be. There's tackles like that every week.

Yeah 4 games because of the earlier ban. If you're City and you end up losing the title by a couple of points, do you look back and wonder why your main striker could only play in 31 of the 38 games because he couldn't keep his head?

Will be sold in the summer if this Gabriel Jesus turns out to be the business.

Chris Sutton just said an English player dived. That's him never on again.

Alli is a serial diver. He needs to be properly called out for it. Was expecting harsher from Sutton.

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Yeah 4 games because of the earlier ban. If you're City and you end up losing the title by a couple of points, do you look back and wonder why your main striker could only play in 31 of the 38 games because he couldn't keep his head?

Will be sold in the summer if this Gabriel Jesus turns out to be the business.

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They're not going to sell their best player.

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Originally Posted by Reg

They're not going to sell their best player.

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There were loads of rumours a few weeks back that Pep wanted rid. No smoke etc.

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Yeah 4 games because of the earlier ban. If you're City and you end up losing the title by a couple of points, do you look back and wonder why your main striker could only play in 31 of the 38 games because he couldn't keep his head?

Will be sold in the summer if this Gabriel Jesus turns out to be the business.

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Seven games he can't get injured in. MASSIVE result.

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There were loads of rumours a few weeks back that Pep wanted rid. No smoke etc.

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Plenty where football transfer rumours are concerned.

Chelsea look rank bad whenever they play anyone half decent but you have to give them credit for the results they keep getting. From a passing perspective them seem to be benefitting from a lot of opposition player fuck-ups this season. City really should have put them away yesterday, but the meltdown was fairly lol. As mentioend above, I'm fairly sure Fabregas just backed himself up over that advertsiing hoarding. Could do with Aguero getting at least an extra game :rosebud: but he won't. He is a filthy bugger though. Isn't Antony Taylor that 'Altrincham' one Mourinho moaned about?

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We are so hilariously shit this season :D

Still not HUGELY upset about it yet. Probably because I'm off to Porto on Monday.

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Champions League trophy and relegation in the same season. :drool:

Don't rule it out.

Or we win the FA Cup and Ranieri is outed as a nonce.

Having to miss Scunthorpe away because you've got to fly to Japan and play Palmeiras in the World Club Cup.

I've got a bad feeling about today. 2-0 Bournemouth.

Also, why don't Lino's ever wear caps? Are they allowed to?

Firmino's teeth really clashing with our kit today.

Quality finish from Origi. 2-0

Amazing game in the FA Cup, non league Curzon Ashton 3-0 up over League One Wimbledon after an hour. They lost 4-3 with a 94th minute winner.

"well, Jim. I've had a lovely day out ..."

Can't wait to watch United play out another tedious draw! Hurray! :moop:

I've enjoyed this match, mainly for Bobby Madley's refereeing, which is like a 90-minute guessing game.

Bournemouth had a stonewall pen is the first half not given for reasons unknown.

That ball not crossing the line 100% was hard to take.

Bournemouth :cool:

There was something inevitable about that.

Karius :harold:

Bring back Ming the Merciless.

Karius is just a walking fuck-up. Well in Nath.

I now declare Chelsea champions.

Catch the fucking ball, you gimp.

:****)

That was the stuff that makes you feel warm and fuzzy inside.

Now this is the Liverpool we know and love.

FEC and the trendy lesbian at CB? lol.

Hasn't that been the centre-back partnership for the last 4 or 5 games? Smalling is still injured, I believe.

Smalling is garbage, hope he stays injured for a while.

The front of the United team looks swish, so if they can't put anything together today then fucking hell.

This Ryan Fraser lad looks like he's constantly about to burst into tears.

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Hasn't that been the centre-back partnership for the last 4 or 5 games? Smalling is still injured, I believe.

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Yes but I need to lol at something in the United team these days and the rest of the team looks alright.

I thought it was inevitable when they went to 2-1 but at 3-1 to us we really should see out such games. We've thrown that but credit to Bournemouth, a true game of two halves.

Scoring 3 goals away and not even taking a point, says there's a big problem at the back. But we've known that for some time haven't we?

'Carra' is so good (better than Gary Neville) when he gets worked up about something.

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'Carra' is so good (better than Gary Neville) when he gets worked up about something.

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Anyone who uses the phrase 'the required standard' in football punditry gets the thumbs up from me.

Or it was just one of them games given we'd conceded just once in the last four. We missed Matip at the back but poor game management if anything.

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Scoring 3 goals away and not even taking a point, says there's a big problem at the back. But we've known that for some time haven't we?

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The keeper is quickly turning into a comedy act by the week.

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'Carra' is so good (better than Gary Neville) when he gets worked up about something.

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Has he stayed true to his playing career by giving great punditry about Liverpool but barely turning up when anyone else is involved?

Liverpool. :harold:

Hopefully that'll stop all that title talking nonsense.

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The keeper is quickly turning into a comedy act by the week.

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I keep hearing that De Gea was like this when he first arrived etc.

Problem is that I saw him be quality for Atletico before he came over, so it was only a matter of time. I have no base to go off for this new kid other than he loves his haircut.

Just watched the Liverpool highlights. Our defending, particularly Lovren, was of the highest comical standard. He's always got that in him hasn't he.

It's been a great weekend for the First Rule.

Rojo should have been sent off there.

Thats a horrible decision and we got lucky

Oliver is an awful referee. He's such a coward when it comes to making the right decision.

It was a red, but wasn't the Everton geezer also flying in with both feet? It's just that he missed.

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Oliver is an awful referee. He's such a coward when it comes to making the right decision.

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He is getting everything wrong. Barry should have two yellows, Rojo should have been off. Apparently Martial cant hold Coleman but Coleman can hold him (twice now).

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It was a red, but wasn't the Everton geezer also flying in with both feet? It's just that he missed.

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Somewhat but Rojo's was just horrible.

Watching it back, the Everton geezer is alright. Not a great weekend for Argie filth.

Fucking hell :D

Ibra :cool:

That was lovely.

That goal :D

United look like utter shit but thanks for the goal Steklenberg you stupid idiot.

Everton (and the Goodison Seethe) on a dark Sunday is a classic dropped points fixture, so they look alright.

United are playing well. Not sure what you're watching bruh.

I've never really liked 'Zlatan', but I reckon he's the only bloke left in world football who can volley a football to world class standard.

Looking like a team at the moment. Some really nice stuff.

Fe fe fellaini

Fellaini is such a fucking mess.

Learn to tackle.

Fellaini is such an awful player. Fuck sake.

Comes on to ensure we don't concede.

Gives away a penalty with his first involvement.

Logic.

He needs to be put down ffs.

Fellaini must give stunning blowjobs or something to keep getting game time under three different managers.

There's a fellatio pun there somewhere.

What United are suffering from in these games, rather than the defensive lapses that allow teams to equalise, is the inability to score more than a single goal per game.

Another draw :D

Neither Liverpool or Man United have helped themselves today. Both should have won, both fucked themselves. Good weekend for Chelsea.

Holy fuck I'm livid

Liiiiivvvviiiiid

I thought him controlling the ball in the Everton box and then belting it out for a throw-in was funnier. Why even send him on?

Never a dull moment with Klopp.

Lucas will be in the net next year.

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Liiiiivvvviiiiid

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That's not how you use it at all but ooooooooooooooooooooooooookay then.

Bruh :cool:

Ipswich Town v Lincoln/Oldham
Barrow v Rochdale
Manchester United v Reading
Hull City v Swansea City
Sunderland v Burnley
QPR v Blackburn Rovers
Millwall v Bournemouth
West Ham United v Manchester City
Brighton & Hove Albion v MK Dons/Charlton Athletic
Blackpool v Barnsley
Wigan Athletic v Nottingham Forest
Birmingham City v Newcastle United
Chelsea v Notts County/Peterbrough United
Middlesbrough v Sheffield Wednesday
West Brom v Derby County
Everton v Leicester City
Liverpool v Newport County or Plymouth Argyle
Wycombe Wanderers v Northampton Town/Stourbridge
Watford v Burton Albion
Preston North End v Arsenal
Cardiff City v Fulham
Stoke City v Wolves
Cambridge United v Leeds United
Bristol City v Shrewsbury/Fleetwood
Huddersfield v Port Vale
Tottenham v Aston Villa
Brentford v Halifax/Eastleigh
Bolton Wanderers v Crystal Palace
Norwich City v Southampton
Sutton United v AFC Wimbledon
Accrington Stanley v Luton Town
Rotherham United v Oxford United/Macclesfield

My life is Man Utd v Reading.

Liverpool have dodged a bullet there.

Birmingham? Aye, we're losing that 4-2.

A boring draw for us in isolation but a good chance to get through. I'd love a Prem team at home next round.

If Preston v Arsenal is a guaranteed televised game, what are the other three? I want the Barrow and Sutton games on but I bet it'll be United, Liverpool and Spurs.

I think Preston away marks the first time we've played 'Away' from home in the FA Cup in 3 years.

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If Preston v Arsenal is a guaranteed televised game, what are the other three? I want the Barrow and Sutton games on but I bet it'll be United, Liverpool and Spurs.

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A good idea seeing as you're probably one of about 8 people would want to see Barrow and Sutton.

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Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd

If Preston v Arsenal is a guaranteed televised game, what are the other three? I want the Barrow and Sutton games on but I bet it'll be United, Liverpool and Spurs.

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West Ham-Man City would be ahead of United-Reading wouldn't it? They seem to pick the all-Premier League games nowadays. Norwich-Southampton might be on, as snore as it is.

Liverpool should get on; that's the pick of the draw.

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Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd

If Preston v Arsenal is a guaranteed televised game, what are the other three? I want the Barrow and Sutton games on but I bet it'll be United, Liverpool and Spurs.

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Man Utd v Reading
Liverpool v Newport/Plymouth
Tottenham v Aston Villa

...because why not? Shoutout to Barrow v Rochdale though (probably not even worthy of a showing)

Haven't United been one of the tv games every time they have been in the draw for something like the last decade?

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Originally Posted by Reg

West Ham-Man City would be ahead of United-Reading wouldn't it? They seem to pick the all-Premier League games nowadays. Norwich-Southampton might be on, as snore as it is.

Liverpool should get on; that's the pick of the draw.

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West Ham and City would be a good one yeah, but big clubs at home to minnows is pointless.