Yeah, this again. The thread served a decent purpose on the last place so here we are again.
I'm doing alright actually. How are you doing?
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Yeah, this again. The thread served a decent purpose on the last place so here we are again.
I'm doing alright actually. How are you doing?
Better than that American kid.
I bought some haslet but I've eaten it all. :(
I'm on medication that's supposed to make me depressed, but it hasn't yet.
I feel like mine's getting worse again after a spell of it not being so bad there. I got lazy and stopped meditating. I think that is probably a part of it.
Sex change! Sex change! Sex change!
What?
That might be the solution.
I doubt it.
Read an interesting article from the music producer and DJ Benga about mental illness and depression etc interesting stuff, I'd provide linkage but was on works pc.
Jesus fucking christ, Hammer, it's just a werewolf game.
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Nobody can tell you what to do - only you know what you like doing. I'm not saying this from a 'depressed person' state but I enjoy playing football so I make sure I set the weekends aside for just that. Even venturing out for long walks with the headphones in makes you feel better.
What are you interested in? Start from there and work outwards.
I know this will sound dumb, especially coming from me, but i suggest you take acid or shrooms. Alone, in a comfortable environment. idk if youve ever done psychedelics before but one of the big things they did for me was remind me of how much i value music and how fun the music production process is. i dont have depression per se, but whenever i'm bored or feeling lonely i just go back to ableton and i'm bound to spend hours chugging away at something i'm proud of. psychedelics are wonderful if treated with respect, and i think most people could vastly benefit from an experience with them
Top advice mate.
You're a pointless poster these days pepe
I really appreciate your feedback.
Yeah, no.Quote:
Originally Posted by mokbull
In real life we justify so much shit to our brains as a defense mechanism. Everybody does it all the time. Psychs reveal all that shit which is why it can be a sobering, frightening experience. But at the end of the day you come out with better knowledge of what you've been repressing and what you need to work on, and that includes hobbies that you are truly interested in but that you've been too lazy to do anything about. It doesn't solve anything for you long term, but it gives you a much better perspective on your life than you had going in, which is something that I feel would be critically important if you were depressed or aimless. Especially if youve never done psychedelics before
Aye, having a condition which alters your mental state into that of a dark, fucked up hole, and then dropping some psychedelics is definitely a great plan mate. I get it, you like them, preach preach preach.
Advising someone who has had a long history of depression and suicidal tendencies to take psychedelic drugs is lunacy. Simple as that.
"Here mate I've got this serious heart condition man, any heightened heart rate could severely fuck me up but it seems to be under control at the moment. Anyway pal, what we up to tonight?"
"Getting you smashed off your nut on coke mate!"
"Cracking idea"
Have any of you ever tried any, or are you just making baseless assumptions?
I've tried them and it's ridiculous. You've also been nowhere near them.
Why would I try something that alters my mental state when I'm prone to deep depressive cycles? Use common sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by mokbull
Smiffy has probably tried them.
Have you ever been clinically depressed and nearly killed yourself, or are you just making baseless assumptions?
Something about the line of work I'm in that really pisses me off is how my work colleagues chortle at claimants suffering hallucinations and paranoia during assessments.
I've never had depression, but from my understanding it comes from a lack of direction, a lack of purpose, or any number of lifestyle factors that, when combined with a genetic predisposition to that sort of mental state, lead to depression. A lot of it is down to pessimism, and a feeling that the future holds nothing for one.
A lot of people see psychedelics as something that just fucks you up and puts you in a Alice in Wonderland type hole. There is a decent amount of research that suggests psychedelics are effective in treating depression, as well as anxiety and PTSD.
From my perspective, you can't get out of a mental rut as deep as the one that leads to depression without a significant shift in your outlook on life and the world in general. Medication can eliminate some of the depressive tendencies by changing the chemical composition of your brain, but it doesn't get rid of the line of thinking that leads you to feel a certain way. For that there is psychiatry, but that oftentimes feels forced and not genuine.
Don't dismiss something simply because it's taboo.
Some links:
http://www.theguardian.com/science/2...study-suggests
http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/08/24...gs.depression/
Nobody's said that, so I can only assume this bizarre series of posts is driven by some pre-existing agenda that you have.Quote:
Originally Posted by mokbull
Yes, the agenda is to try to rid peoples' general ignorance about psychedelics. Specifically to Smiff saying he can't be arsed to take up a hobby, which is something that an experience with a psychedelic drug could help solve.
Drugs and depression just don't work.
Want to feel great for an hour but then feel like utter arse for the following few days, most of it spent staring at the painting on the wall?
Sure, go for it, 2g of sniff please.
Of course coke and bad vibes are shit together. Same with weed, alcohol tbh
Idiotic advice, go away mokbull.
Smiff, learning an instrument would be my first suggestion, unless you want something that gets you out of the house, in which case take up a sport. Try one you haven't before if you don't fancy taking up one you used to play again.
Binge watch Workaholics. Sure fire way to put a smile on anyone's face.
Mixing depression with acid would be pretty fucking risky, though I see where he's coming from. I don't much like the 'it has nothing to do with my thought patterns it's just how i'm made' line of reasoning with depression and I think stuff can often be done to help people climb out of it in the right circumstances...but acid is far too fucking cerebral to be doing it in your room without proper supervision and it's a bit daft to off-handedly just suggest it like that. Those articles are about the possibility of it being used with professionals knocking about, both when they're up in the clouds and beforehand to figure out how they might respond to it in the first place.
I like David Nutt though. His book 'Drugs without the hot air' is a really good read.
I used to work with a guy who casually dropped acid. He resigned and spent all his savings on a few weeks in the states.
Who casually drops acid? That doesn't even sound enjoyable
There must be some things you enjoy doing for fun, Smiffy, or that you've enjoyed in the past. I would start with those.
Harold is right about taking walks too. One of the best ways to clear your mind and feel like you're "doing" something without any real commitment.
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Good stuff, Smiff. :) Enjoy it!
About 4-5 months ago I was feeling a lot better so decided to jack my citalopram but then a couple of months after that it felt like I hit close to the bottom.
My grief for my Dads returned, I lost all motivation to do anything, I felt depressed for the first time in my life and my sleeping was even worse.
Started counselling again with the Uni (I've had 2 sessions and it's helping) and I went back on my citalopram. However, the meds weren't working so last week I spoke to my GP. She decided to switch me to mirtazapine as it can help with sleep but I needed to be switched across slowly.
Last night was my first does of mirtazapine and I felt like I was going to face plant my keyboard after about 15 minutes.
I took it at around 1am and I'm still feeling ridiculously drowsy from it, she told me to go up to 30mg next week christ knows what I'll be like on that.
You'll be fine after a couple of weeks, its just working its way back into your system.
He obviously thought that this was a wise idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by Manc
I find tripping to be much easier craic' in general than even going out for a single pint, microdosing for instance can be done without any really massive repercussions on the day ahead and the next.Quote:
Originally Posted by mokbull
That said, proper doses of anything shouldn't be taken lightly, unless one is experienced enough to understand what they are getting into.
Personally, I've never had a bad trip; but then I've never been stupid enough to take LSD or any other kind of psychedelic when I've been bottomed out/having a polar dip. Anyone who takes a psychedelic thinking that it will make them inherently feel better is risking having a full blown episode, and I've seen people have them - key to remember is that whilst stimulants or uppers make you feel king of the world, all psychedelics are accelerating what already exists within you at the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hammer
Feeling bad without something to hold on to when you take trips, and it will make you feel worse times ten. However, in the right environment, accessing these emotions can be highly functional in dealing with and getting over them.
'Candy-flipping', can be constructive for instance; mixing doses of ecstasy and psychedelics.
None of which should be taken casually with mates while depressed.
As for the OP.
Yeah, I'm currently feeling really incredibly low myself - the majority of which stems from the fact that the majority of the people I've been socialising with over the last three years have grown into/turned out to be massive cretins of the highest order; and so I have shunned socialising with anyone really for the last year - and as Belfast is really rather small, meeting new people who aren't sucked into the faceless cretin machine that is drink/take-drugs/lie/cheat/steal/repeat is quite hard because the allure of hanging out with the few people who are exceptionally dead-on is too hard to resist for most folks.
Every time my house-mates go out for drinks or bring people back, all I hear is more fucking drama between the lot of them; and I'm stood there having a conversation which goes: "why don't you come out any more?" and "yeah, so x hit y because it turns out y was a thieving cunt all the time they were professing themselves bessies."
...there's only so many times you can say "I told you so" before a crippling form of depression caves down on your head. I feel like Cassandra at times. I really wish I didn't care so much about people who don't appear to have any care for anyone but themselves. It's sickening listening to people say that people are angels when you know better.
That and yet again one of the mad wee girls that everyone just lets do what she will/turns a blind eye for whatever reason, has turned around and claimed one of our mates assaulted her - that's the third time that she's tried to press charges in the last year for an imaginary event that's taken place when she's been wiped out of her tree. Our mate has been visibly in need of being kept an eye on since the charges were brought against him, but he's been feeling a bit better since he was cleared because the police realised she was a fucking melter.
Fuck it, Star Wars is out on Thursday.
If it's shit, Friday may be a day not to be alone.
The mirtazapine is fucking brilliant, at least in terms of getting me to sleep.
I can't remember ever falling asleep as fast as I am and I'm sleeping through the night for the first time since last year.
Aye I'm on Mirtazapine too, 30mg, freaking phenomenal for sleep. Properly knocks you out. Don't mix it with drink btw, fucks you up.
I don't drink so no problems there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Soldier
I'm on 15mg until next Friday when I'm being moved up to 30mg.
Just knowing that I will be able to have an actual nights sleep is a huge boost to my mental health, let alone actually getting the sleep.
Be careful with 30. What you feel now re: drowsiness will be way more intense, and you'll feel like shit the next day, probably nap etc. It took about four weeks before it settled into my system.
First time you take 30 you'll sleep for about 14 hours straight. Can be hard to drag yourself out of bed at that strength.
I felt drowsy as fuck with 15 for the first night.
Pretty much knocked me out cold 5 minutes after taking it, I slept for 12 hours, woke up groggy and needed a 4 hour nap during the day. After that I was fine though.
I'm not too fussed about being out of it for Christmas though.